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On Jan 16, 2014 3:23 AM, "Neil Bothwick" <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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> On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:32:00 -0800, walt wrote: |
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> > > I get this on my desktop but not my laptop. I have tried for ages to |
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> > > find out why it only fails on the desktop and gave up. Now I just |
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> > > "chmod +x /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper" and it goes away, |
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> > > until the next update. |
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> > Helmut is still using consolekit. Are you still using consolekit? |
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> Yes, it's the default for kdm so it is enabled on both computers. |
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I don't think it will be the default for much longer; it's unmaintained |
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code which sooner or later will start to bitrot. Unless someone steps in |
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and starts taking care of it. |
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> > I have no idea if consolekit is relevant here, but Canek has been |
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> > telling us that consolekit is abandonware and we should stop depending |
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> > on it. |
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> That's part of the drive to put everything in systemd, which I do not use. |
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Fact is, nobody is maintaining ck; from its homepage[1]: |
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"ConsoleKit is currently not actively maintained. The focus has shifted to |
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the built-in seat/user/session management of Software/systemd called |
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systemd-logind!" |
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That message has been there for months; in general ck kinda still works, |
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although it never really solved the problem of properly tracking user |
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sessions, which is why everybody involved with it quickly jumped ship to |
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logind, where the problem is properly solved. |
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However, as the interfaces in the stack evolves, unmaintained code like ck |
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will simply stop to work. ConsoleKit uses dbus heavily, and with the |
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introduction of kdbus[2] and the inevitable changes that will happen to |
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dbus, combined with nobody taking care of ck, I don't think it will keep |
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working much longer. |
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Ubuntu and Debian (now that is seriously discussing which modern init |
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system to use) have been discussing an alternative, API compatible |
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implementation of logind, but I don't know if it has got nowhere. I think |
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that has more future than ck, but again, nobody (AFAIK) has stepped in and |
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do the heavy coding. |
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Independently, though, I think is safe to say that ConsoleKit is a dead end. |
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Regards. |
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[1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/ |
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[2] http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/580194/a2a05056a657f1bb/ |
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