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Thufir <hawat.thufir <at> gmail.com> writes: |
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> > 2. Keep licensing more in line with the BSD license for Gentoo centric |
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> > technology (thus encouraging entrepreneurship as defined by the |
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> > individual while simultaneously respecting GPLv2 and maintaining |
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> > compliance with GPLv2. GPLv3 is a poor idea, IMHO. GPLv3 can be made |
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> > easily available and leave GPLv3 compliance/responsibility up to the |
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> > individual. In fact software licensing and compliance should always be |
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> > up to the INDIVIDUAL, IMHO. |
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> Absolutely not -- For BSD licensing please use BSD. I see no reason why |
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> everything Gentoo related can't be GPL v2 -- after all, the kernel |
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> certainly is. |
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It runs a little deeper than this, particularly when you look at how is doing |
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what. For example |
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There are Dozens of corporations willing to sell 'embedded linux' to you. |
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Yet the core of their offering is the same linux you used (with some tweaks |
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at the kernel, HAL and a few other places). How does Monta Vista get |
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to sell embedded linux without being sued? |
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I really don't think this is the place to discuss licensing but the BSD |
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vs GPLv(2/3) is a hugely complicated issue. Lots of small companies are |
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being quietly sued for building products related to embedded linux. |
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But, none of the large corporations that do the same or worse are being |
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sued....? |
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And, oh, just so you know, Monta Vistas original RTOS was a rip off |
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of BSD. |
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(Do your own research) |
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> I wouldn't want to see entrepreneurs take Gentoo, *improve* it, and then |
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> not contribute those improvements back to Gentoo itself. That's what the |
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> GPL versus BSD is about, to my knowledge. |
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Again you miss the point. If some small company builds a product, they |
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are not going to want to stray very far from the linux kernel tree. The |
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most they do is write a device driver. If they have some real 'magic' you |
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just put a second sub $1 micro processor on the circuit board and locate |
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your "magic" therein. It's as easy as eating pie. Publish your gpl code |
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on the big micro and hide your magic in a small proccessor/DSP/FPGA/PAL. |
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There are many other schemes to get around GPL, including writing your |
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own boot loader. (not as difficult as it sounds). |
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What the GPLv3 is doing is effectively keeping the little guys from building |
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products ~100% based on linux and open source. They have not stopped a single |
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well funded company (or an entire country like China) from using linux |
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and open source as they choose. This is a very huge reason for the |
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current state of affairs for failed technology companies (particularly in |
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the USA), at the present time. The Linux Journal has a big campaign to |
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locate "linux inside" of products, basically asking folks to 'rat out' |
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companies using linux to make a buck. <insert your own conspiracy theory |
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here> |
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You still believe gplv3 is a good thing? I think *GPLv3* is the spawn of |
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Satan, and that's the reason most of the kernel devs did not go for that |
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*horse hockey*! |
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> That being said, it would be fantastic if the Gentoo Foundation found |
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> ways to make money :) |
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It will never happen as longs as "myths" such as the ones you espouse |
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reign supreme, IMHO. The reason that Gentoo and all of those souls that |
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develop and support it is floundering on near financial failure, is the |
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tenants (goals) that others have brain washed onto the masses, IMHO. |
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The very best way (IMHO) to promote democracy and freedom is for |
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the people to have a way to make money as entrepreneurs and small |
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business people. Keeping Linux bottled up, via the GPL is just |
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plain nuts! Besides that, Linux only bottled up for the little guys, |
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HP, IBM, and thousands of other companies used linux every day in |
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products or high end services, such as phone/networking gear. |
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Who is suing them? |
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Hell, the US DOD uses Linux like crazy... Who are we kidding with |
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the entire GPL schrade? (Keep the serfs where they belong, methinks). |
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