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From: Philip Webb <purslow@××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] update problems
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 00:38:07
Message-Id: 20150920003753.GN1080@ca.inter.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] update problems by Alan McKinnon
1 150920 Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On 20/09/2015 00:17, Rich Freeman wrote:
3 >> While Gentoo doesn't do as much handholding as many distros,
4 >> the Portage output above should not be viewed
5 >> as something we are proud of.
6 > It's either due to it being a really hard problem
7 > or the Portage team is short of manpower.
8 > Either way, I'm content not to bitch about it mainly
9 > as the tree is a unique thing in the Linux world
10 > Portage only knows what it has in it's internal data structures
11 > when it decides it can't continue. It can't provide the user
12 > with a meaningful answer as is so often asked for here,
13 > so what is it supposed to do?
14
15 My impression is that using Portage has become more complicated
16 & its warning/error messages have not been given the necessary attention.
17 Complaints or pleas for help like the OP's here are quite frequent
18 & not all of them come from novices who don't understand what Gentoo does.
19
20 Portage sb able to report eg
21
22 "Pkg1 & Pkg2 (of Version1 & Version2) can't be installed together ;
23 Pkg1 is needed for Pkg3, which you already have installed ;
24 Pkg2 is needed for Pkg4, which you are trying to install.
25 Please review your needs : you may need to remove a package temporarily
26 in order for Portage to proceed, then restore a different version of it".
27
28 That's a common problem, which experienced users can diagnose themselves,
29 but the present Portage output is too opaque to help newcomers.
30
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Re: [gentoo-user] update problems Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>