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J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 01:21:37 PM Dale wrote: |
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>> J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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>>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 02:04:47 AM Dale wrote: |
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>>>> <<< SNIP >>> |
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>>>> |
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>>>> Dale |
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>>>> :-) :-) |
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>>> Dale, |
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>>> Considering the amount of changes, did you reboot the system or at least |
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>>> killed everything running at least once? |
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>>> That should also help with the stability. |
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>>> Also, I used the following 2 meta-packages: |
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>>> kde-apps/kde-apps-meta |
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>>> kde-plasma/plasma-meta |
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>>> This gave me most stuff, including the configuration for virtual desktop |
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>>> in the same place (SystemSettings) |
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>>> Start that, then search for "Virtual Desktops" and the only working icon |
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>>> is |
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>>> where you need to be. |
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>>> The pager thing to select the virtual desktops appears magically then. |
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>>> -- |
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>>> Joost |
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>> Update and some info for Joost. |
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> Thanks, as I now have a bit more time, I will add my own thoughts as well. |
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>> I been playing with this a while and found some things. First, I had to |
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>> get to the settings part which would only give a error working. When I |
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>> got to the edit part, I figured out that for some reason, it was still |
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>> trying to run the KDE4 command, which was removed during the upgrade of |
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>> course. So, I got that back by giving it the new command, |
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>> systemsettings5 I think was it. That helped. |
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> Hmm, I actually started it from the K-menu. When it's opened, you can search |
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> through all the entries by simply typing. |
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> I did do an " emerge --depclean " before trying to configure things. Eg. |
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> systemsettings for kde4 disappeared already. |
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That is sort of what I was trying to do except I was looking for the |
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actual menu entry. The problem is, the one for settings was not using |
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the correct command. I'm not sure what to think about that. Anyway, |
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after I fixed that, that lead to a lot more fixes on other things. |
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>> Once in there, I found |
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>> lots of things to help get things to where I could work with them. I |
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>> found out that I could add multiple desktops back and at that point, the |
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>> desktop pager thingy appeared and worked. I guess when it is set to 1 |
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>> desktop, it doesn't show up or something. |
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> Which seems logical behaviour to me. And the same happened here after |
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> configuring it. |
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It is logical. I knew I had to enable multiple desktops but since the |
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settings thing wasn't working, I couldn't figure out how to enable it. |
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When I did a google search, I saw where several folks said it was gone |
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which caused me great concern. I got to much stuff going on right now |
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to redo my whole setup. |
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>> I also got it to where it |
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>> wouldn't turn my monitor off and lock the screen if I turned my head a |
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>> minute. |
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> I use my laptop also when at "public" places, like at a customer. Which means |
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> the auto-lock-screen-after-5-minutes is a useful feature. |
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> Now if only I could have that time auto-adjusted based on the network it's |
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> connected to? :) |
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Yea, the setting it had would be good for a public place or a laptop |
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that can be any number of places. For my desktop tho, it was way to |
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quick. Actually, I disabled the lock part. I just want my monitor to |
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turn off after a while. If I want to lock the screen, I just use the |
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keyboard shortcut ctrl alt L. |
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>> Then I found out how to adjust the size of fonts in a lot of |
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>> other places. Now that helped a lot. I was using a magnifying glass to |
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>> read some stuff. I also set the numlock to on. I have numbers in my |
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>> password and that was getting annoying to have to turn on. |
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>> I very rarely reboot. After a big upgrade, I just go to single user, |
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>> use the checkrestart command to be sure and then go back to default |
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>> runlevel. I also generally clear the cache and such too. I restart or |
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>> kill anything checkrestart shows if needed. |
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> I had issues where checkrestart wouldn't kill enough, or didn't notice changes |
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> to configuration. Hibernate (eg. suspend-to-disk) didn't work from kde until I |
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> rebooted. |
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I've never had that here. It seems to always work for me but you may |
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have something installed that I don't. |
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>> I do have those packages installed. I emerged plasma-meta and that |
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>> pulled in a lot. Since I run some unstable stuff already, I had to |
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>> adjust some things to get emerge happy. After that, it was a large |
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>> download and a lot of compile time. |
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> Those 2 pull in nearly everything. |
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>> As it is, the biggest thing is that it doesn't seem to carry over |
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>> settings from KDE4. It seems to start out fresh just like if it was a |
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>> clean install. |
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> That is actually mentioned in the upgrade-guide. Just not in so-many words. |
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> I actually think that's a good thing as a lot of the issues I had when first |
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> switching to KDE4 was caused by left-over settings from KDE3. A fresh start |
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> helped a lot. |
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If I recall correctly, when I did the upgrade from KDE3 to KDE4, I tried |
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to use my old settings. It was a mess. I ended up renaming the |
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directory and starting fresh. Some things were just weird. Thing is, |
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it was hard to figure out if it was a bad config or just a bug that |
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needed fixing. As we likely recall, that switch was less than smooth |
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for a lot of people. |
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>> Other than that, it's OK. I still get the occasional |
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>> plasma crash tho. It's not as often but it still pops up on occasion. |
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> I've had 1 today, when I clicked on the up-pointing triangle to get all the |
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> hidden systray items. That was, so far, the only one. |
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I think I've had two today here. It seems to be getting better |
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somehow. I'm not sure if it is me changing settings or what tho. |
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>> I may start a emerge -e world. I haven't done that in a while anyway |
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>> and it usually clears up weird issues that can't quite be figured out. |
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>> Oh, I had to switch to sddm for this too. You just change the setting |
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>> from kdm to sddm and it just works. |
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> Same here, and mentioned in the upgrade-guide. |
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> I actually did the change to SDDM before switching to KDE5/Plasma. |
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>> It looks different but it works |
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>> fine. That may have carried over some settings. It selected the user |
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>> and was ready for my password just like kdm did. Again, it looks |
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>> different but it seems to work the same. I suspect one could adjust the |
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>> settings, somewhere, and make it look like kdm if they wanted to. |
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> Yes, you can. |
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> Google for " sddm themes ". |
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> They go in " /usr/share/sddm/themes " |
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> The OCD one looks like the KDM Oxygen theme... |
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I may do that. I'm bad to search for Gentoo themes. lol I usually |
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like them well enough. Thing is, I don't get to see sddm much. |
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> Now for my thoughts: |
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> I haven't found a decent colourscheme yet (There wasn't one for KDE4 either) |
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> Most of the apps are ok, just waiting for KDevelop 5 to appear in the tree. |
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> My biggest complaint though: |
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> KSnapshot has disappeared and been replaced by " Spectacle ". |
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> It might be a technically better solution, but the primary reason I absolutely |
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> love KSnapshot is it's ability to quickly take a new snapshot of the same |
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> region (adjusting slightly when necessary) and then it defaulting to the next- |
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> numbered filename in the same folder when selecting "Save As". |
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> With Spectacle I end up having to redefine the region every single time and |
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> having to click multiple times to get to Save As and then it always goes back |
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> to some Pictures folder. The quick-save (which includes a Quit-action) uses |
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> timestamps. |
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> In other words, I end up spending more time clicking needlessly during my |
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> work, or renaming manually after the activity is finished. |
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> -- |
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> Joost |
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I kind of liked ksnapshot but rarely used it. It is really easy to |
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use. I'll look into that other one and see what I can figure out with it. |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |
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P. S. Maybe now that I got my puter up to date, I can finish changing |
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that clutch on the tractor. I'm almost to the clutch now. o_O |