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[lee]

Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> writes:

> lee wrote:
>> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> writes:
>>
>>> lee wrote:
>>>> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> lee wrote:
>>>>>> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lee wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't go look at boards I had around here.  I went to a major
>>>>>>>> computer supplier, newegg, and looked at what they had.  Go back and
>>>>>>>> read again what I did and maybe read it more carefully.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might I also add, it's more than just me that has pointed out that you
>>>>>>>> are not correct on this.  It's a few others as well.  You ever stop to
>>>>>>>> think that what you observe is not the normal and certainly not the
>>>>>>>> default?  If what you claim was even remotely accurate, newegg would
>>>>>>>> have had a lot larger number of boards with two ports on it.  Thing is,
>>>>>>>> they didn't.  Kai pointed out that the same is true in Europe.
>>>>>>>> Why would I assume that what someone else observes is a default?
>>>>>>>> Besides, I don't see what problem you're having with this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then why would what you observe also be claimed to be the default?   As
>>>>>>> I also pointed out, it's not just what I observe, it's what I and others
>>>>>>> have observed as well.  So far, you are the only person claiming that
>>>>>>> two ports on a home user board is the default.  I have not seen anyone
>>>>>>> else post that you are correct.  Others have posted that you are not
>>>>>>> correct tho.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is, you claim that having two ports is the default.  It is
>>>>>>> not the default.  I've said it, even researched it and explained how I
>>>>>>> researched it, others have also posted the same point.  Just because you
>>>>>>> have boards with two ports does not mean it is a default.  Given the
>>>>>>> research I did, it isn't even close.  Boards with two ports for a home
>>>>>>> user is not only not the default, it's somewhat rare.  Out of the top 72
>>>>>>> boards I checked, only a couple or so had two ports.  That is far from
>>>>>>> being the default.  That is quite rare.  Even if it was 5 boards, that
>>>>>>> would be under 10%.  That is hardly something to call a default.  If it
>>>>>>> were say 50%, then one could at least argue that the default is moving
>>>>>>> to having two ports.  It's just not the case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sooner you figure that out the better for you.
>>>>>> And eating rice is the default because so many people do it ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>> You can claim that having two ports is the default but that isn't
>>>>> supported by a single fact.  As I said, the only person who thinks it is
>>>>> a default is you.  The default would be set by the manufacturers.  Since
>>>>> what is manufactured has to be sold, one good way to find out what the
>>>>> default is, go look at what is being sold.  When you see something that
>>>>> is common, like say four USB ports, then that is the default.  Another
>>>>> example, if most all boards have five PCI-e slots, then that is the
>>>>> default.  If you want six slots, seven slots or more, then you are
>>>>> likely going to pay extra and have fewer buying options because that is
>>>>> not the default.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using your logic, no one eats rice since so much of it is grown and
>>>>> sold.  If rice was not grown and not sold, then your logic would work.
>>>>> So, your post doesn't even make sense.  The manufacturers of boards by a
>>>>> large margin puts one ethernet port on a home use board and even most
>>>>> office computers only need one port.  If one goes and looks at what is
>>>>> being manufactured and sold, they would be able to see that.  Of course,
>>>>> some people can't see it even when several people post the facts.  It
>>>>> seems some will never get the idea.
>>>> Rice is not eaten much around here, so it's not the default type of
>>>> food.
>>>>
>>>> Besides, people buy what is being manufactured.  If all boards were
>>>> manufactured with 4 ports, it wouldn't stop ppl from buying them, and if
>>>> no rice was grown, it wouldn't stop ppl from eating (if sufficient
>>>> quantities of other types of food were available).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Rice isn't eaten much around here either.  That IS NOT the point tho.
>> By way of your argumentation, it's still the default food.  You're
>> saying you aren't eating it much.  I would have to conclude that you're
>> living in a bubble outside of reality.
>>
>> Or I could simply acknowledge that you have a different default.
>>
>>> The point is that having two ports is not the default.  As I said
>>> before, if what you claim were even remotely true, then board sellers
>>> would be listing boards with two ports by huge numbers.  They are not.
>>> It is rare even.  Well under 10%, likely less than 5%.  That is FAR from
>>> being a default.  Anyone claiming otherwise is delusional.
>>>
>>> Given your other posts, I've come to the conclusion that you are truly
>>> living in a world that is not based on reality.  You live is some bubble
>>> that you have created where what you think is the only option.  You,
>>> even when shown facts, can not accept anything that doesn't fit in your
>>> little bubble.
>>>
>>> You posted that two ports is the default.  Others and myself posted that
>>> is not correct.  I even went to the trouble to prove it.  Yet here you
>>> are still posting that it is when you have yet to post a SINGLE fact to
>>> back up what you claim.  I posted how I researched it and did so in a
>>> way that you should be able to do the same, and see it for YOURSELF.
>>> Yet you refuse to even do that.  You are right even when you are proven
>>> to be 100% wrong in your little bubble.  Unless you can prove that
>>> having two ports is the default, by posting links to a major
>>> manufacturers website or a major seller, you are talking BS and nothing
>>> else. There is no point to you posting anything else.  Post proof or you
>>> are wrong.  Get over it.  Back up your claims.  It shouldn't be hard if
>>> you are correct. It took me about 5 to 10 minutes to do my research and
>>> about the same to post it.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day.  Enjoy your little bubble.
>> Well, I guess you haven't realised yet that reality doesn't exist.
>> Bubbles are a self-imposed limit for those who believe in reality.
>> You probably hit that wall and now try hard to remain confined.
>>
>> Unfortunately, this won't make sense to you until you come to realise.
>>
>>
>
> So, because you THINK two ports is the default, then it is even when you
> can't post a single thing to back it up?  Keep in mind, I researched
> this and posted how I did it.  That research does NOT support what you
> THINK.  The sooner you realize that just because you think something is
> the default doesn't make it so, the better for you it will be.  As I
> also pointed out, I'm not the only one who says you are wrong.  To this
> point, no one else has posted to support your claim either.
>
> To put it bluntly, two ports is NOT the default and never has been
> either.  Based on the research I did, it isn't even going to be the
> default anytime soon.  You are wrong, period.  Until you can post a fact
> that backs up your claim, you are wrong.  I've said it, others have said
> it and yet you are still posting something as fact even when proven to
> be wrong.
>
> Whether you call it a bubble or call it cow crap, you are not posting
> facts or even a informed opinion.  I call it BS.  Let me know when you
> can post some facts to back up your claim.

Like I said, it doesn't make sense to you.