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On 4/21/22 08:02, Dex Conner wrote: |
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> On 22/04/21 09:09AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: |
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>> On Thu, 2022-04-21 at 15:49 +0300, Dex Conner wrote: |
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>>> Hi everyone, |
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>>> |
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>>> So I've found a Thinkpad X200 online and I'm thinking of buying it for |
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>>> libreboot purposes. Do you think the P8600 cpu can handle all the |
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>>> compiling on gentoo? For the record, I don't have any of the "big stuff" |
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>>> like KDE, GNOME, Firefox (all I have is Tor Browser [which I don't |
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>>> compile], dwl and some terminal programs like neomutt and profanity). |
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>>> Surely, I wouldn't be spending 5 hours to do small upgrades, |
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>>> right?..right? |
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>>> |
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>>> |
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>> |
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>> It's getting harder and harder. There's always GCC, which is going to |
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>> take you most of the day to build and will probably require -j1 to keep |
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>> you from running out of memory. But aside from that, the big ones are |
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>> |
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>> * dev-lang/rust: pulled in by anything that needs SVG support unless |
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>> you unmask an old insecure version of librsvg or can tolerate half- |
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>> broken SVG support. This takes over 24h, requires -j1, and gets |
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>> worse every day because it bundles all of its (growing list of) |
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>> dependencies. |
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>> |
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>> * LLVM: needed by rust, some video cards, and certain picky packages. |
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>> This one is at least _legitimately_ large but has annoying point |
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>> releases every once in a while that trigger a rebuild for little |
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>> benefit. Again, expect ~24h. |
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>> |
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>> * net-libs/webkit-gtk: if you're avoiding firefox (which is huge, |
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>> and requires rust, which is huge), then this is your best bet for |
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>> a browser engine. Even if you don't use it directly, other apps |
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>> like evolution (mail client) can pull it in. It too is huge, just |
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>> not as bad as the others. This one finishes in something like 18h |
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>> for me. |
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>> |
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>> Everything else that's packaged well and uses a sane programming |
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>> language shouldn't give you much trouble. |
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> |
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> LLVM is annoying even on my current machine but I already avoid rust |
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> with rust-bin and I don't have webkit-gtk. I'm wondering much of a remedy |
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> using a T400 with quad core mod would be to that 24h compile time. Not sure |
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> if it would be worth the 50-70 bucks, though. That's more than what the |
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> computer costs! |
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Do you have any other (more powerful) machines at home that you could |
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set up as a distcc cluster? I've run Gentoo on a T420 and X220 (so two |
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generations newer than your X200), using my home desktop [i7-6700K] as a |
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distcc host for updates. It's livable, but definitely the kind of thing |
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where I'd kick off an emerge --update and leave it running for several |
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hours while I'm doing something else. I've also upgraded mine to 8GB |
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RAM which helps with certain builds. |
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In addition to the usual problem packages others have called out, the |
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main problem I ran into was heat dissipation: the X220 chassis is so |
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small that railing the CPU at 100% for hours on compiles was pushing the |
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temperature over 90 degrees celsius. I disassembled the laptop and |
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applied new high quality thermal paste to the CPU/heatsink and it seems |
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to be doing a little better now. |
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