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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:17:08
Message-Id: 51001B00.6030102@googlemail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault by Nikos Chantziaras
1 Am 23.01.2013 16:35, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
2 > On 23/01/13 17:09, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
3 >> On Wednesday 23 January 2013 07:52:03 PM IST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
4 >>> [...]
5 >>> In my experience, most of the time you can overclock. The issue is
6 >>> with the user not knowing exactly how to do it. You need to
7 >>> understand a few things and how they affect each other. It's not just
8 >>> a knob you can turn.
9 >>
10 >> That pretty much applies to me. I don't know much about hardware stuff.
11 >> Regarding your 1 Ghz overclock, you probably have good components in
12 >> terms of RAM & SMPS.
13 >> When I bought this rig in 2008, I knew nothing about good components,
14 >> blindly trusted local vendor... also internet shopping wasn't advanced
15 >> here.
16 >> So pretty much substandard components.
17 >
18 > The part that's really important is the mainboard. RAM doesn't
19 > matter. In my case, I had pretty basic 800MHz DDR2 RAM. Raising the
20 > FSB would bring it above that, so I changed the DRAM ratio to 1:1, and
21 > the RAM then ran at only 600Mhz.
22 >
23 > That was the starting point to rule out RAM problems. After that, I
24 > raised FSB but kept the VCore constant until I hit the first
25 > instabilities. When that happened, I raised VCore a bit. Rinse and
26 > repeat, until the VCore was still below the maximum recommendation by
27 > Intel. That happened at 3.4GHz (378MHz FSB * 9 CPU multiplier =
28 > 3402MHz CPU clock.) The E6600 CPU I got was an average sample.
29 > Others were running it at 3.6GHz (or even higher with water cooling.)
30 >
31 > This was a process that took about 3 days to complete (needs a lot of
32 > stability testing.) The good thing about those older CPUs was that
33 > the performance boost I got by OCing wasn't just scaling linearly with
34 > the CPU frequency. It was scaling *better* than that, because raising
35 > the FSB also made the mainboard itself perform better and with lower
36 > latencies.
37 >
38 and here we are - the point where the suspension of disbelief ends.
39
40 All you may have gained you threw away with the slower ram - and you are
41 trying to tell us that your rig was faster?
42
43 You do know that with today's CPUs the CPU is not the bottleneck - the
44 slow as molasses, no speed bump for 10 years ram is.
45
46 (just look at the internal clock rate of dram chips - and you realize
47 that ddr1-3 are pretty much the same crap).

Replies

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
[gentoo-user] Re: Overclocking CPU causes segmentation fault Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com>