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On Monday 01 May 2006 11:14 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote: |
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> lordsauronthegreat@×××××.com wrote: |
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> > On Sunday 30 April 2006 11:21 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: |
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> >> Kesara Rathnayake wrote: |
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> >> > I guess Firefox is slow now because of whole lot of Extentions that we |
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> >> > used today. |
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> >> To find out, I asked OP to create a blank profile. I also assume |
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> >> a local problem at his side. OP should simply create a new profile |
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> >> and report back. |
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> >> Alexander Skwar |
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> >> |
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> >> PS: I begin to hate Googlemail because of the default to use HTML |
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> >> even if it is not required. Sucks. Big time. |
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> > I used the GMail web interface for a long time and it defaulted to plain |
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> > text for me. |
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> This might be correct. However on new accounts, HTML is used. |
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> If you don't believe me, simply create a new account, and you'll |
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> see. |
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I'm not contending with you there. |
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I actually signed up for GMail before they had HTML options, so I wouldn't |
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really know for sure. I'll just take your word for it then. |
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> > If I changed to rich-text the next time it'd default to RTF. |
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> No, it most certainly did not. Who accepts RTF? |
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Not anyone I know of. I thought that it was in RTF though... |
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> > It's still in |
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> > the beta stage, you know. |
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> As if anything on Google is NOT in beta... |
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Too true. |
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> >> Another thing that sucks, is that HTML mails are permitted on this |
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> >> list. Why not just dump the HTML part (and every other attachment)? |
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> > Why not, |
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> Makes mails larger, without adding anything useful (normally). |
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> Further, it makes mails a bit harder to read and harder to |
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> quote. |
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At this point I'm inclined to think you're using an inferior mail client. |
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KMail works just fine with HTML. What are you using? |
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> eg. the mail which I quoted: In HTML, it's about 1179 bytes. In |
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> text/plain, it is 729 bytes. And actually, the HTML caused |
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> overhead is even more, as the 2nd MIME part (the HTML part) |
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> caused additional headers to be added. Those are an additional |
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> 378 bytes. |
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Yah, I agree with you that it's unnecessarily wasting space to use HTML. |
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That's why I don't use it. However, I don't think it's right or polite to |
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start harrassing people for using it. |
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> > if it irks you so much, make a script that will change RTF/HTML to |
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> > Plaintext? |
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> That's not a useful advice. I'd have to accept the (normally) |
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> uselessly bloated mail first and then strip it. Makes no sense. |
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No, you're not thinking! |
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The mailing list server receives a email in HTML. |
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Convert the HTML to plaintext. |
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Then send, and store in the list archives (as plaintext). |
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Sure, you wasted some bandwidth on receiving the HTML, but you're not making |
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the problem worse by sending or storing the bloated form of it, either. |
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> > It wouldn't be terribly difficult... |
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> Depends. |
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On the skil of the programmer, of course. I'd take a while to do it because |
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I'm a perfectionist, and because I'm still new to programming in general. |
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I'd automatically turn it into a learning experience, which would make it |
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take twice as long. |
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However, for a established programmer who's learned the ways of the Source, it |
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wouldn't be terribly difficult. Think: |
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Just take all the tags out. Convert stuff like: |
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</p> |
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<br> |
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to a newline and you're done! It's just Presto! and the most basic of |
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functionality is there. Then you can tack on stuff for special characters |
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(&lso; and stuff like that... it's been a while, so that's probably not a |
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valid code, but you get the idea, right?) |
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Just delete the junk like the <html> tags and stuff of that nature with |
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plaintext doesn't need (or care about). |
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It's really simple. |
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> Alexander Skwar |
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> -- |
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> We seldom repent talking too little, but very often talking too much. |
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> -- Jean de la Bruyere |
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