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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:52:59
Message-Id: CA+czFiBhANP5MSEOqe5s7y1Opre6vC9E7oct5iAJwOKUdiFQdA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed. by Dale
1 On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
2 >
3 >
4 > Looks like some good info.  I just need a GOOD sale and some extra money to
5 > spend.  Maybe in a couple weeks or so.  Hopefully. ;-)
6 >
7 > As for heat in my case, I have a Cooler Master HAF-932 case.  It has those
8 > huge 230mm fans.  Heat is not a problem.
9 >
10 > I just wonder how much data they will be able to pack into a 3.5" drive tho.
11 >  Hmmmmm.  Surely they will run out of room at some point.  I mean, the heads
12 > have got to have a little room to work with.
13
14 Just don't buy a SAMSUNG drive. I know, I know, everyone has their pet
15 "Don't Buy Hard Drives Made By $x" experience.
16
17 Here's mine.
18
19 I bought a 1TB SAMSUNG drive for cheap from Newegg at a Black Friday
20 sale a couple years ago. It failed on me. Around the same time, I
21 identified some flaws in the firmware which I considered severe[2].
22
23 I RMA'd the drive, including a full report on the failure and the bugs
24 I'd found in the firmware. I received the new drive in the mail. Same
25 exact model. Same exact firmware revision.[1] It failed on me within
26 three months. I attempted another RMA, the drive's serial number was
27 rejected by their system, and I never heard back.
28
29 So, I recommend not buying SAMSUNG drives for a combination of:
30 1) Historical evidence of poor firmware design. (reference smartctl's
31 man page; SAMSUNG is the only manufacturer I know of to get two
32 user-selectable workarounds in smartctl.)
33 2) I received a failed drive, which was RMA'd, the subsequent drive
34 failed shortly thereafter, and couldn't be RMA'd using normal
35 channels.
36 3) No acknowledgement (or even denial) of the firmware issue.
37
38 [1] Ok, sure, there's no way they'd be able to whip out a new firmware
39 revision in time for an RMA. That wouldn't make sense. But they might
40 have sent me a drive with a different firmware revision. Or a
41 different model. As it stood, they sent me back a device I'd already
42 identified as systemically defective.
43 [2] It claimed to support logging, but any failed test didn't get
44 appended to the log, but erased and replaced it. I can probably dig up
45 nearly all the details, but not quickly, since I'm at work. However,
46 since you're on the cusp of making a purchase, I thought I'd give you
47 fair warning...
48
49 --
50 :wq

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed. Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed. Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed. Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com>