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On Sun, 13 May 2012 17:01:07 -0400 |
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Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Alan McKinnon |
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> <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:12:04 -0400 |
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> > Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Alan McKinnon |
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> >> <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> >> > [1] .avi files are notorious for this shit. It's what happens |
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> >> > when you are Microsoft and you release any old crappy format |
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> >> > without consulting the other experts out there (who will always |
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> >> > outnumber you) |
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> >> Which better container formats were available at the time AVI was |
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> >> released (1992)? The only contemporary container format I'm aware |
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> >> of is RIFF, which came out in 1988. MPEG-1 didn't come out until |
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> >> 1993, which was the same year the Ogg project started. Real's |
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> >> stuff didn't come out until 1995. Matroska was announced a decade |
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> >> later, in 2005. |
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> >> |
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> >> Matroska, MP4 and even OGG are nicer container formats, sure, but |
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> >> they weren't around yet. And even with any of them, it's perfectly |
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> >> possible to accidentally get A/V desync or stuttering if you don't |
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> >> mux your streams properly. |
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> >> |
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> >> (This post draws heavily on Wikipedia for date information, and |
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> >> dates may be considered only as accurate as Wikipedia...) |
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> >> |
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> > |
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> > You missed the essence of my post entirely. |
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> Anti-Microsoft snark? I thought I was calling you on it. |
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I said .avi is a crappy format, and it is, that much is obvious to |
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anyone who understands the simple basics of what a container should do. |
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It would have been obvious to the .avi developers then. And yet it |
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somehow made it's way to market and got used extensively |
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You asked what alternatives were available. That is not a question I |
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asked. It matters nothing that the public used .avi so much (they had |
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precious little in the way of choice). So whether they had |
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alternatives or not is irrelevant. |
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The entire gist of my post was about how .avi as it stands is crappy |
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and should never have been released by an entity with the engineering |
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clout of Microsoft as they don't have the excuse of being one dude in |
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Mom's basement who didn't know better. They really should have known |
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better. |
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Alan McKinnnon |
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alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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