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Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes: |
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> > Last, I suggest a parallel learning of C/C++ as it really helps |
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> ^this^, after the basics are fully mastered. |
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> netmasks make no sense at all until bitwise operators are fully |
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> understood. Even CIDR notation is not really obvious until you |
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> understand what languages like C do with the 32 bit words we call IP |
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> addresses. All x10 when IPv6 comes into play |
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Huh. I find teaching networking, including the intricacies of advanced |
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protocol design, implementation and debugging, are far simpler if |
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folks know at least one programming language. Bit manipulations |
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are but one part of logic, sequential circuits timing and such |
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of the Computer Engineer's domain. In my experience, if folks read too |
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much, but do not play with some codes on actual hardware, it all becomes a |
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giant nebula. I guess I just like the practical side of these issues, to get |
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folks hooked on hardware. |
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How a serial port (rs_232) works and the putting ppp over that is very |
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keen for teaching networking. ymmv. You can also use a protocol analyzer to |
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see some cool things. Many codes are published and looking at how a |
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microprocessor handles basic packets is very stimulating and encouraging. |
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Too bad most kids now days do not get to work on embedded hardware and build |
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up an executive or state machine and send/recieve data over interfaces. |
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Granted I worked in the world where assembler was |
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king (embedded) and assembler folks learning C and tcp/ip were easily amazed |
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and happy to migrate from assembler to C. |
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As Joost pointed out, I guess it really depends on the background of |
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the student. Being a hardware guy, I guess my focus is tainted.... |
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So, fair enough, but how long (exactly what are the basics) do you |
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read before you go to the lab and play? Labs are always more fun |
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than classrooms, lectures and stuffy old farts.............(gotcha!) ? |
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cheers, |
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James |