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From: Kent Fredric <kentfredric@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:57:05
Message-Id: 8cd1ed20707032351g5e491506n8cae6a200fd66d49@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return) by Grant
1 On 7/4/07, Grant <emailgrant@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > In December 2006 I started a thread titled "Is Gentoo Healthy?" in
3 > which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
4 > decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
5 > remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
6
7 <blatant bias>
8 I see people leaving gentoo as some sort of self voluntary step in the
9 natural progression of a distro. People moving from Gentoo to
10 $OTHERDISTRO raises the average intelligence of both distros ;)
11
12 > Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter
13 > hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be
14 > just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up
15 > to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo
16 > is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and
17 > potential are being stunted by the "we don't need them" attitude which
18 > perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners.
19
20 The problem is if you focus on usability for newbies, you'll focus
21 less on features and customization, or you'll have to find a way to
22 hide this customizability because customization confuses newbies, and
23 spending time dancing around the lesser populace is time wasted on
24 doing practical stuff ( While I'll admit theres got to be a half-way,
25 or gentoo will never get any fresh blood, but I'd prefer to entice
26 fresh blood from people who have some potential to improve the distro
27 )
28
29 And if your introducing a newbie to Linux, maybe gentoos not the right
30 thing to teach them. Thats why we have distros out there like linspire
31 ( .... ) .
32
33 IMO, gentoo is already user-friendly enough, if you take it from the
34 perspective Gentoo is LFS + Userfriendlyness.
35
36 > Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a
37 > short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo
38
39 And theres no point in targeting a distro at an audience who still
40 don't know what a power button is, and are confused about downloading
41 attachments from hotmail. Some usuability is good, but you need some
42 boundaries of sanity, and I think gentoo is currently hitting the
43 perfect target audience for people who want control and customization,
44 and are willing to experiment with things to get things done.
45
46 ( and if you really want to introduce a total noob to gentoo and don't
47 mind wasting some time... your best option is to set up for them, and
48 show them it just works, and then show them information on a strictly
49 'need-to-know' basis when they come asking )
50
51 > no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes.
52 > Car mechanics all start as car drivers.
53 >
54 > - Grant
55 > --
56 > gentoo-user@g.o mailing list
57 >
58 >
59
60
61 --
62 Kent
63 ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9, 5, 8, 3, 10, 11, 6, 12, 13].each{|x|
64 print "enNOSPicAMreil kdrtf@×××.com"[(2*x)..(2*x+1)]}'
65 --
66 gentoo-user@g.o mailing list

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