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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> On Sunday 28 September 2008, Hal Martin wrote: |
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>> Hello all, |
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>> I am contemplating building a new computer with an AMD/ATi graphics |
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>> card. I've been following the subject of ATi driver quality in linux for |
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>> a while, but I realize that the experiences I read on Google search |
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>> results are, shall we say, biased, as many people who have perfectly |
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>> working cards don't go out and comment on how great their drivers are. |
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>> So, do any of you have newer (HD series) AMD/ATi graphics cards? |
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> HD3870 |
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I just picked up the HD3850, which is a nice card by all measures. |
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>> What drivers (AMD closed source, or open source) are you using? |
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> fglrx - the closed source ones. |
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I installed these drivers (from portage) and tried them. |
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>> Are they stable? |
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> yes. Switching between vt and X works, and restarting X too - but the ati |
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> scripts in /etc/acpi have to be removed. |
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> With desktop effects turned off 2d is fast and snappy and video is ok. |
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> With desktop effects turned on 2d is fast except manually resizing windows and |
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> xv-video sucks. Luckily kde 4.1 makes it easy to switch ;) - and I don't need |
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> xv ;) |
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I had a horrid time with the fglrx drivers. I use two displays, and |
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while it was a breeze to setup (even easier than on an NVidia card) the |
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result was horrid. I can't drag windows from one display to another, the |
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windows wrap within the display. The fglrx_gears program renders |
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something that I don't believe heralds from this planet; while glx_gears |
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renders the same thing I get on my NVidia card only 10% slower (which is |
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expected given the performance difference between the 7900GTX and the |
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HD3850.) |
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Trying to exit X11 causes a complete system lockup, requiring a hard reset. |
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>> How is the performance? |
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> very good. I play ut2004 and vegastrike 0.5. With a but. See above. |
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I couldn't get any Wine apps that use 3D to work. Call of Duty 4 refused |
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to start, citing that the video card didn't support alpha blending. |
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>> Any noise issues with your card when it's idle? Under load? |
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> the fan is very quiet in KDE or playing games. Only in the menus of ut2004 or |
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> on a vt it turns up - but is still very bearable. |
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> aticonfig --odgt |
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> Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 3870 |
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> Sensor 0: Temperature - 51.00 C |
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My card is incredibly, nay, unbelievably loud until you throttle the fan |
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manually from aticonfig, which, I might add, is absent from the Catalyst |
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control centre gui. After throttling the fan down to 3% the card settles |
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around 45.00C and is quiet enough to bare. |
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My attempt to uninstall the portage based ATI drivers (which are |
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slightly dated,) and install the official drivers from ATI proved to |
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wreck my system beyond comprehension. 'eselect opengl list' no longer |
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includes ATI, only xorg-x11. I have no ability to start X11 anyone, and |
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no fan control, meaning I now have a jet engine residing in my computer. |
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There must be something I'm doing wrong. I've heard that ATI drivers |
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aren't supposed to lock up your system when you exit X11, is this still |
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the case? Was this ever the case with two monitors? |
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Is there any way to get the ATI driver to automatically set a reasonable |
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fan speed, or must I do it manually? |
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I've switched back to my original NVidia card, and the kind folks on the |
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#gentoo channel helped me restore my NVidia drivers to their original |
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state. I don't know when I'll attempt to try the ATI card again, as this |
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experience has shown me just how bad things can get. The fact that the |
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Gentoo Wiki dealing with ATI drivers is outdated and references AGPGART |
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so many times I actually began to think that my system had AGP on it. |
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Does someone have a better guide on how to setup an ATI/AMD graphics |
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card in linux using the drivers provided in the portage tree? If I can't |
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run two monitors off the card and keep my system stable, then there's no |
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point, in my mind, of even keeping the card. Also, and I don't know if |
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the Gentoo list is the proper place to voice these concerns (I doubt it |
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is, actually) but *what* is with the fan speed control? It's non-existent! |
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My experience with ATI drivers today remind me of the state of NVidia |
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drivers 3 years ago, it's horrific! |
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-Hal |