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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Cc: Tom Hendrikx <tom@×××××××××.net>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:56:16
Message-Id: 201002022253.39379.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question by Tom Hendrikx
1 On Tuesday 02 February 2010 17:34:42 Tom Hendrikx wrote:
2 > Peter Humphrey wrote:
3 > > On Tuesday 02 February 2010 12:47:46 David Relson wrote:
4 > >> I've been running unstable versions of portage for many months and
5 > >> currently have 2.1.7.17, which _is_ the newest non-masked version.
6 > >
7 > > Nevertheless, it isn't the latest version. To get that you need an entry
8 > > in package.unmask; then portage will be able to sort out far more complex
9 > > problems than the unmasked version can. Don't worry - many people here
10 > > have been doing this for many months, with no problems attributable to
11 > > portage.
12 >
13 > I'm not sure if upgrading portage to a masked version is a sane solution
14 > for the OP's issue (i.e. resolving a single dependency issue).
15 > Reading the error output from portage (and sometimes the ebuild) to
16 > solve the blocker (as people do who run a stable portage) would suffice,
17 > imho.
18
19 The list of benefits from using latest unstable portage is very long.
20
21 The list of persons running stable systems who have reported problems here
22 with latest unstable portage is very short, tending to zero in fact.
23
24 Whereas willy-nilly mixing stable and unstable is normally condemned as a bad
25 idea (with good reason), it generally considered OK with portage for the above
26 reason. Portage is self-contained, unmasking it doesn't contaminate the system
27 with legions of other unstable $STUFF
28
29 > As for the issue with openrc:
30 >
31 > =sys-apps/openrc-0.6.0-r1 depends on =sys-apps/sysvinit-2.87-r3, and
32 > both are in ~arch. Unmask both, emerge them, run etc-update and be fine.
33
34 Portage's blocker list has historically been confusing and difficult for users
35 to parse. They often don't know what to do - how many posts like that have you
36 answered where the answer is simply "unmerge this, merge that, merge world"?
37
38 It makes sense to me, probably to you too, and not much sense to a large chunk
39 of gentoo userland. Latest portage fixes all that and makes it a non-issue.
40
41
42 --
43 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question Philip Webb <purslow@××××××××.net>
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout2/openrc question Peter Humphrey <peter@××××××××××××××.org>