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On 2013-09-28 10:04 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On 28/09/2013 13:32, Tanstaafl wrote: |
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>> This, combined with an intense (also maybe irrational) desire to avoid |
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>> like the plague using an initramfs, is why this decision to FORCE me |
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>> into a position of possibly having to break my system (either by a filed |
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>> attempt at merging /usr into /, or a failed attampt at using an initramfs). |
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> No-one is forcing you to do anything, the news item did not say that. |
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> It says that if you do it, the devs will not support you and you are on |
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> your own. It also says that in the dev's opinion, the day when you can |
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> no longer support it either is probably not too far away |
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>> The main thing about this that pisses me off is the lack of enough |
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>> warning... one month? Really? One month to completely rebuild a |
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>> server that has been running flawlessly for many years, just |
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>> because someone doesn't like something that has been done for many |
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>> years? |
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> First, it is not one month, it is much longer. We've all been |
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> whinging about the issue for most of this year. |
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Oh, please... the last conversations about this were *only* with respect |
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to udev. Claiming that issue/conversation/thread adequately serves as |
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advance warning about this *new* ultimatum is disingenuous at best, and |
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an outright LIE at worst. |
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> Two, why do you think you need to rebuild the entire machine? You |
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> don't need to do that just to merge two filesystems. |
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> To merge two filesystems, you just merge two filesystems. You don't |
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> rebuild anything. You might have some downtime though |
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Right, I misspoke there, but something that seems trivial to one person |
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may not be quite so trivial to another. |
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I have *never* merged a critical filesystem on a critical server like |
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this before. |
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> Please see the news item for what it actually is, not something else. |
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I see it as an ultimatum that I *must* change a server that has been |
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running flawlessly for years, or face breakage at some point in the NEAR |
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future. |
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I also view this as a potential 'shot across the bow' warning that |
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systemd is coming and will be shoved down our throats, like it or not. |
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Maybe it isn't, but judging solely by recent events, I think that is |
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much more likely than not. |
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