Re: [gentoo-user] building without X - gentoo-user

From:	"Eric S. Johansson" <esj@××××××.org>
To:	gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject:	Re: [gentoo-user] building without X
Date:	Mon, 06 Dec 2004 16:06:13
Message-Id:	`41B48356.3030803@harvee.org`
In Reply to:	Re: [gentoo-user] building without X by Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte

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Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote:

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> Hi !

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>

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> First questions ....

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>

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> What do you want exactly ? Do you need X support or not ?

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8

apologies for not being clearer.  What I want is only X11 client side 

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support so I can build applications that use X11.  Since it is a server 

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and I will never run X11 server side, I don't want to spend the time or 

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energy building the X11 server.  case in point is Emacs.  I don't want 

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to be limited to what ever I can display via putty but wish to display 

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Emacs sessions on my desktop X11 server.

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If it is impossible to split X11 into client and server packages, then I 

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would need some help figuring out why it is dying on two security 

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related functions.  based on your advice, I found some information and 

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I'm rebuilding a bunch of packages in the hopes that the unexplained 

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dependency will be fixed

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> from make.conf try putting `emerge info`. It really gives what are the

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> currently active settings of portage so to speak.

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24

thank you for the advice.  see below.

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> Might want to read this too :

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> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/109647

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29

at initial glance, doesn't seem to apply.  It's good information but I'm 

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not trying to eliminate X totally, only the server side.  or failing 

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that, make the server build and ignore it.

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>Post the results of `emerge info` and `emerge -uDpvt`

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> if you were trying to update your server.

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xeno root # emerge info

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Portage 2.0.51-r3 (default-linux/x86/2004.3, gcc-3.3.4, 

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glibc-2.3.3.20040420-r0,glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1, 2.6.9 i686)

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=================================================================

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System uname: 2.6.9 i686 Pentium III (Katmai)

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Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16

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Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r5

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Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1

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Binutils: sys-devel/binutils-2.15.90.0.1.1-r3

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Headers:  sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.21-r1

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Libtools: sys-devel/libtool-1.4.3-r4,sys-devel/libtool-1.5.2-r7

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ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"

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AUTOCLEAN="yes"

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CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"

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CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"

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COMPILER=""

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CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config 

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/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"

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CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"

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CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"

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DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"

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FEATURES="autoaddcvs autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms"

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GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo 

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http://gentoo.eliteitminds.com 

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http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo 

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http://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.ccccom.com"

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MAKEOPTS="-j3"

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PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"

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PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"

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PORTDIR="/usr/portage"

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PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"

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SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"

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USE="X aim apache2 apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups emacs 

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encode f77 fastcgi foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gtk gtk2 imap 

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imlib jpeg kde ldap libg++ libwww mad maildir mcal mikmod mmx motif 

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mozilla mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl oss pam pcmcia pdflib perl png 

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python qt quicktime readline sdl spell sse ssl svga tcpd truetype usb 

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wxwindows x86 xml2 xmms xv zlib"

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xeno root # emerge -uDpvt world

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These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

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Calculating world dependencies ...done!

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[nomerge      ] app-editors/emacs-21.3-r3  +X* -Xaw3d -debug +gnome 

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-leim -lesstif +motif +nls

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[ebuild  N    ]  media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b  +X +gif 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]  x11-libs/openmotif-2.1.30-r5  -debug 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]  gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.8.0  -debug 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]   app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14  +nls 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]    dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.9-r1  +crypt +python 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.1.94  +nls 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1  +nls 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]    app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r5  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]    app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.12  -tetex 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.3  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.65.1  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]       app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.2  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r2  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.0-r2  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.77-r2  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     dev-perl/SGMLSpm-1.03-r5  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.0-r2  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r2  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      app-arch/unzip-5.50-r2  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     app-text/openjade-1.3.2-r1  -debug 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r4  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      app-text/opensp-1.5-r1  +nls 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]   x11-libs/startup-notification-0.7  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.8.0  -accessibility -debug 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]  x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.2.0  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]   media-libs/imlib-1.9.14-r3  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]    x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r11  -debug +nls 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]    media-libs/giflib-4.1.0-r3  +X +gif 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]    media-libs/tiff-3.7.0  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.8.0  -debug 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]  x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]   gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.8.0  -debug -doc +jpeg 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]    gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.0  -debug 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]    gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libgnome-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.8.1-r2  -debug -doc -gnutls 

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-hal -howl -ipv6 -samba +ssl 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]       app-admin/fam-2.7.0-r2  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]        net-nds/portmap-5b-r9  -debug (-selinux) +tcpd 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]       gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.1  -debug 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      media-sound/esound-0.2.34  -alsa -ipv6 +tcpd 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]       media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.16  -debug 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libbonobo-2.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/gconf-2.8.0.1  -debug -doc 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      gnome-base/orbit-2.12.0  -debug -doc +ssl 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]       dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.4  -debug 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]       dev-util/indent-2.2.9-r1  +nls 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]     gnome-base/libglade-2.4.0  -debug -doc 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.9-r1  -debug -doc +jpeg -tiff 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]       x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.14  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]        dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.15-r1  -debug -ipv6 +python 

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+readline 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]        dev-util/intltool-0.31.2  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]         dev-perl/XML-Parser-2.34  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]       x11-libs/pango-1.6.0  -debug -doc 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ] x11-terms/xterm-196  -Xaw3d -debug +truetype -unicode 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]  sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5  0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]   app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r2  0 kB

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[nomerge      ]    sys-apps/which-2.16

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[ebuild  N    ]       x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r3  -3dfx -3dnow 

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+bitmap-fonts -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -hardened 

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-insecure-drivers -ipv6 +mmx +nls +pam -sdk +sse -static -xprint 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]      dev-libs/atk-1.8.0  -debug -doc 0 kB

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[ebuild  NS   ]       dev-libs/glib-2.4.7  -doc 0 kB

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[ebuild  N    ]        dev-util/pkgconfig-0.15.0  0 kB

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Total size of downloads: 0 kB

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1	Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote:
2	> Hi !
3	>
4	> First questions ....
5	>
6	> What do you want exactly ? Do you need X support or not ?
7
8	apologies for not being clearer. What I want is only X11 client side
9	support so I can build applications that use X11. Since it is a server
10	and I will never run X11 server side, I don't want to spend the time or
11	energy building the X11 server. case in point is Emacs. I don't want
12	to be limited to what ever I can display via putty but wish to display
13	Emacs sessions on my desktop X11 server.
14
15	If it is impossible to split X11 into client and server packages, then I
16	would need some help figuring out why it is dying on two security
17	related functions. based on your advice, I found some information and
18	I'm rebuilding a bunch of packages in the hopes that the unexplained
19	dependency will be fixed
20
21	> from make.conf try putting `emerge info`. It really gives what are the
22	> currently active settings of portage so to speak.
23
24	thank you for the advice. see below.
25
26	> Might want to read this too :
27	> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/109647
28
29	at initial glance, doesn't seem to apply. It's good information but I'm
30	not trying to eliminate X totally, only the server side. or failing
31	that, make the server build and ignore it.
32
33	>Post the results of `emerge info` and `emerge -uDpvt`
34	> if you were trying to update your server.
35
36	xeno root # emerge info
37	Portage 2.0.51-r3 (default-linux/x86/2004.3, gcc-3.3.4,
38	glibc-2.3.3.20040420-r0,glibc-2.3.4.20040808-r1, 2.6.9 i686)
39	=================================================================
40	System uname: 2.6.9 i686 Pentium III (Katmai)
41	Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16
42	Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r5
43	Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.5-r1
44	Binutils: sys-devel/binutils-2.15.90.0.1.1-r3
45	Headers: sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.4.21-r1
46	Libtools: sys-devel/libtool-1.4.3-r4,sys-devel/libtool-1.5.2-r7
47	ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
48	AUTOCLEAN="yes"
49	CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
50	CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
51	COMPILER=""
52	CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config
53	/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
54	CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
55	CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
56	DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
57	FEATURES="autoaddcvs autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms"
58	GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo
59	http://gentoo.eliteitminds.com
60	http://open-systems.ufl.edu/mirrors/gentoo
61	http://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.ccccom.com"
62	MAKEOPTS="-j3"
63	PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
64	PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
65	PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
66	PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
67	SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
68	USE="X aim apache2 apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups emacs
69	encode f77 fastcgi foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gtk gtk2 imap
70	imlib jpeg kde ldap libg++ libwww mad maildir mcal mikmod mmx motif
71	mozilla mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl oss pam pcmcia pdflib perl png
72	python qt quicktime readline sdl spell sse ssl svga tcpd truetype usb
73	wxwindows x86 xml2 xmms xv zlib"
74
75
76	xeno root # emerge -uDpvt world
77
78	These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
79
80	Calculating world dependencies ...done!
81	[nomerge ] app-editors/emacs-21.3-r3 +X* -Xaw3d -debug +gnome
82	-leim -lesstif +motif +nls
83	[ebuild N ] media-libs/libungif-4.1.0.1b +X +gif 0 kB
84	[ebuild N ] x11-libs/openmotif-2.1.30-r5 -debug 0 kB
85	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.8.0 -debug 0 kB
86	[ebuild N ] app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.14 +nls 0 kB
87	[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.9-r1 +crypt +python 0 kB
88	[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.1.94 +nls 0 kB
89	[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.0-r1 +nls 0 kB
90	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r5 0 kB
91	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.12 -tetex 0 kB
92	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.3 0 kB
93	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.65.1 0 kB
94	[ebuild N ] app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.2 0 kB
95	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r2 0 kB
96	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.0-r2 0 kB
97	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.77-r2 0 kB
98	[ebuild N ] dev-perl/SGMLSpm-1.03-r5 0 kB
99	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4 0 kB
100	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.0-r2 0 kB
101	[ebuild N ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r2 0 kB
102	[ebuild N ] app-arch/unzip-5.50-r2 0 kB
103	[ebuild N ] app-text/openjade-1.3.2-r1 -debug 0 kB
104	[ebuild N ] app-text/sgml-common-0.6.3-r4 0 kB
105	[ebuild N ] app-text/opensp-1.5-r1 +nls 0 kB
106	[ebuild N ] x11-libs/startup-notification-0.7 0 kB
107	[ebuild N ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.8.0 -accessibility -debug 0 kB
108	[ebuild N ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.2.0 0 kB
109	[ebuild N ] media-libs/imlib-1.9.14-r3 0 kB
110	[ebuild N ] x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r11 -debug +nls 0 kB
111	[ebuild N ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.0-r3 +X +gif 0 kB
112	[ebuild N ] media-libs/tiff-3.7.0 0 kB
113	[ebuild N ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.8.0 -debug 0 kB
114	[ebuild N ] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5 0 kB
115	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.8.0 -debug -doc +jpeg 0 kB
116	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.0 -debug 0 kB
117	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.8.0 -debug -doc 0 kB
118	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.8.0 -debug -doc 0 kB
119	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.8.1-r2 -debug -doc -gnutls
120	-hal -howl -ipv6 -samba +ssl 0 kB
121	[ebuild N ] app-admin/fam-2.7.0-r2 0 kB
122	[ebuild N ] net-nds/portmap-5b-r9 -debug (-selinux) +tcpd 0 kB
123	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.1 -debug 0 kB
124	[ebuild N ] media-sound/esound-0.2.34 -alsa -ipv6 +tcpd 0 kB
125	[ebuild N ] media-libs/audiofile-0.2.6-r1 0 kB
126	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.8.0 -debug -doc 0 kB
127	[ebuild N ] media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.16 -debug 0 kB
128	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.8.0 -debug -doc 0 kB
129	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gconf-2.8.0.1 -debug -doc 0 kB
130	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.0 -debug -doc +ssl 0 kB
131	[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.4 -debug 0 kB
132	[ebuild N ] dev-util/indent-2.2.9-r1 +nls 0 kB
133	[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libglade-2.4.0 -debug -doc 0 kB
134	[ebuild N ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.9-r1 -debug -doc +jpeg -tiff 0 kB
135	[ebuild N ] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.14 0 kB
136	[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.15-r1 -debug -ipv6 +python
137	+readline 0 kB
138	[ebuild N ] dev-util/intltool-0.31.2 0 kB
139	[ebuild N ] dev-perl/XML-Parser-2.34 0 kB
140	[ebuild N ] x11-libs/pango-1.6.0 -debug -doc 0 kB
141	[ebuild N ] x11-terms/xterm-196 -Xaw3d -debug +truetype -unicode 0 kB
142	[ebuild N ] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.5 0 kB
143	[ebuild N ] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r2 0 kB
144	[nomerge ] sys-apps/which-2.16
145	[ebuild N ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r3 -3dfx -3dnow
146	+bitmap-fonts -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -hardened
147	-insecure-drivers -ipv6 +mmx +nls +pam -sdk +sse -static -xprint 0 kB
148	[ebuild N ] dev-libs/atk-1.8.0 -debug -doc 0 kB
149	[ebuild NS ] dev-libs/glib-2.4.7 -doc 0 kB
150	[ebuild N ] dev-util/pkgconfig-0.15.0 0 kB
151
152	Total size of downloads: 0 kB
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Subject	Author
Re: [gentoo-user] building without X	Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte <kioshen@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] building without X	Uwe Thiem <uwix@××××.na>