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From: Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 01:04:49
Message-Id: 20120315010310.GC32691@waltdnes.org
In Reply to: RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts. by Mike Edenfield
1 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:15:03PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote
2
3 > Every machine I run Linux on is a huge desktop system running behemoth
4 > software (Eclipse, GNOME, Chromium, LibreOffice, etc.).
5
6 I have Abiword, Gimp, Gnumeric, Firefox, etc, running just fine, thank
7 you, on ICEWM.
8
9 > He seems to be producing a rather vitriolic, and IMO uncalled-for,
10 > rant against the simple fact that computers do more stuff in 2012 than
11 > they did in 1972 and the udev developers are changing with the times.
12
13 > This argument falls flat when the author fails to identify what
14 > he or she considers to be critical vs. non-critical software. Is
15 > bluetoothd critical? On my laptop it is not. On my main development
16 > workstation it is not. On my wife's desktop it is because she has
17 > a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse combination. Should bluetoothd be moved
18 > from /usr/sbin to /sbin? Along with libglib and libdbus, which it
19 > depends on? How about usbmuxd, or alsactl?
20
21 *YOUR WIFE'S LAPTOP* won't boot properly without /usr on /, or an
22 initramfs. OK, put /usr on /, or an initramfs *ON YOUR WIFE'S LAPTOP*.
23 I don't have a problem with that. What gets people really upset is the
24 dog-in-the-manger attitude of "if my complex/corner-case machine won't
25 boot up without /usr on /, or an initramfs, then by golly *NOBODY'S*
26 machine will be allowed to boot up without /usr on /, or an initramfs".
27 My machine does not use bluetooth/other-weird-stuff. udev doesn't need
28 to find bluetooth drivers on /usr on my machine. Why is udev being
29 deliberately broken to not work on *EVERYBODY'S* machine if they don't
30 have /usr on /, or an initramfs?
31
32 --
33 Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts. Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts. Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org>