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Am Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017, 11:13:30 CET schrieb Alan Mackenzie: |
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> Hello, Wols |
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> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:55:45 +0000, Wols Lists wrote: |
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> > Lennart doesn't want a system where a small failure in one place |
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> > cascades and brings down a load of stuff elsewhere. |
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> Neither do I, and neither does anybody. GNU/Linux is not like that, and |
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> never has been. |
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Except where it has, of course. (Seriously, you can't completely avoid |
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breakage when different, independent groups are responsible for different |
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components of a complex, intertwined system.) |
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> It has traditionally been a massive pain to set up, |
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> though, something which has improved dramatically over the last ten or |
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> twenty years. |
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I agree with this, though. |
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> > Granted he's not necessarily the most politic of people, and has ruffled |
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> > a lot of feathers, but I'd much rather a system he's cleaned up, than a |
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> > system where everything hangs together on a knife-edge. |
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> His motivation seems to be ego. To force everybody to use his software. |
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> He did this by, amongst other things, abusing the trust placed in him to |
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> maintain udev. Early on he abandoned support for udev for everybody but |
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> users of his new init system, systemd, in an attempt (sadly successful) |
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> to force "everybody" into using systemd. |
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Of course, the previous maintainer of udev fully supported whatever changes |
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were made, so you're painting a false picture of a potential different |
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history. |
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> I've no idea how good systemd is. It's not been through the normal |
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> process of choice and selection that other successful packages have. It |
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> was forced on people. But being forced to have a binary system log, |
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> being forced (so I have heard) to have an http server running, ...., |
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> doesn't make it an attractive package for me. |
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*All* of this is "so I have heard". What happened to researching stuff as the |
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better alternative to speaking out of your ass? |
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Speaking for myself, I *switched to* systemd fully on my own, and definitely |
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do *not* regret it. I can't speak for all distros, but all of the ones I know |
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of switched willingly, because for them (as for me), systemd was the better |
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choice. You're not against choice, are you ;-) ? |
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> > Cheers, |
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> > Wol |
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Greetings |
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-- |
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Marc Joliet |
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"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we |
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don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup |
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