Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

[Matthew Finkel]

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Matthew Finkel
> <matthew.finkel@×××××.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@×××××.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 16/06/12 21:27, walt wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I guess they figure the desktop will be extinct relatively soon
> >>> and their customer base will vanish unless they capture the
> >>> smartphone market.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ah yes, the death of the desktop PC, which is happening for 15 years
> now.
> >>
> >> Are we dead yet?
> >
> >
> > I'm not holding my breath. There will always be a divide for the power
> > users. A single, under-powered interface isn't going to cut it for a lot
> of
> > us. X provides us with the flexibility that isn't available with the
> mobile
> > interface.
>
> Even in the Microsoft world, I can't easily imagine them ditching the
> old UI paradigm for their Windows Server products. They've come a long
> way in making Windows CLI-friendly (see PowerShell), but they haven't
> yet (AFAIK) provided a good mechanism for remote CLI access.
>

True, and they've been working "hard" to get it to the state it is in now.
In many cases, sys admins have had to unlearn relying on their mouse
for complete power. The CLI provides options that are, obviously, very
difficult
to express in a simple GUI (I know I'm preaching to the choir). Powershell
has
made huge progress in this respect, but it still has a long way to go in
order to
compete with what we have. And I doubt the server environment would ever
become stripped down to the state we're talking about.


> Not that they won't be able to bolt one in easily enough; CSRSS means
> they should be able to provide, e.g. an SSH daemon, give the
> connecting user a PowerShell login session[1], and give it equal
> privileges and security controls as they have for any other login
> session.
>

How many years have they had? I'd given up on this years ago.