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On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:19 AM, pk <peterk2@××××××××.se> wrote: |
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> On 2011-09-18 14:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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>> So you are going from a single bug to 'it must be evil'. If you do that all |
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>> the time there isn't much software left. |
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> You said: "I bet you can't even measure a |
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> difference between dbus running and dbus not running in speed or |
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> responsiveness of your gui." |
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> I only pointed out that that was not always correct (I don't run |
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> Ubuntu). And I have had a _lot_ of problems with dbus (again, this was |
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> years ago, running binary distros - it's only recently that I had dbus |
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> installed again due to Xfce4 requiring it); if I get burnt by some piece |
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> of software (usually it's gnome/freedesktop related - seems a lot of bad |
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> ideas/implementations come from that "place") I try to go "elsewhere". |
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> So if your experience with dbus is different, then fine, by all means |
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> use it; it is your choice. But I choose to avoid it, if possible. |
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> And yes, it seems no matter how hard I try the "gnome" paradigm ('evil' |
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> software) seems to be inching ever closer... I think developers, in |
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> general, should take some hints from this guy: |
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> http://www.sics.se/~adam/ |
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> ... he created this: |
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> http://www.contiki-os.org/p/about-contiki.html |
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> ... running this: |
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> http://www.c64web.com/ |
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Hey, that's really cool. |
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Just don't expect everybody to run our systems without the modern |
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parts of the stack just because a Commodore 64 cannot run it. |
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Many of us actually like the modern features of the kernel, glibc, |
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udev, dbus, systemd, pulseaudio, glib, X.org, GStreamer, Gtk+ and |
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GNOME (or Qt and KDE). In my case (and I have used Linux for a long |
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time), the whole stack looks full of awsomeness, and stuff just works |
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most of the time. |
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So yeah, we use more CPU cycles, more memory and more hard drive. From |
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my POV, we get more than that in new and improved functionality. |
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> Best regards |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |
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