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Am 07.09.2016 um 08:18 schrieb Alan McKinnon: |
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> On 07/09/2016 01:57, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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>> Am 01.09.2016 um 11:01 schrieb Alan McKinnon: |
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>>> On 01/09/2016 09:18, gevisz wrote: |
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>>>> 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>: |
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>>>>> On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: |
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>>> [snip] |
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>>>>> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. |
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>>>>> And a few more to mkfs it. |
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>>>> Just to partition - may be, but I very much doubt |
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>>>> that it will take seconds to create a full-fledged |
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>>>> ext4 file system on these 5TB via USB2 connention. |
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>>> Do it. Tell me how long it tool. |
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>>> |
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>>> Discussing it without doing it and offering someone else's opinion is a |
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>>> 100% worthless activity |
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>>> |
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>>>> Even more: my aquiantance from the Window world |
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>>>> that recomended me this disc scared me that it may |
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>>>> take days... |
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>>> Mickey Mouse told me it takes microseconds. So what? |
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>>> |
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>>> Do it. Tell me how long it took. |
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>>> |
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>>>>>> Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive |
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>>>>>> into smaller logical ones and why? |
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>>>>> The only reason to partition a drive is to get 2 or more |
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>>>>> smaller ones that differ somehow (size, inode ratio, mount options, etc) |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> Go with no partition table by all means, but if you one day find you |
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>>>>> need one, you will have to copy all your data off, repartition, and copy |
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>>>>> your data back. If you are certain that will not happen (eg you will |
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>>>>> rather buy a second drive) then by all means dispense with partitions. |
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>>>>> |
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>>>>> They are after all nothing more than a Microsoft invention from the 80s |
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>>>>> so people could install UCSD Pascal next to MS-DOS |
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>>>> I definitely will not need more than one mount point for this hard drive |
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>>>> but I do remember some arguments that partitioning a large hard drive |
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>>>> into smaller logical ones gives me more safety in case a file system |
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>>>> suddenly will get corrupted because in this case I will loose my data |
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>>>> only on one of the logical partitions and not on the whole drive. |
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>>>> Is this argument still valid nowadays? |
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>>> That is the most stupid dumbass argument I've heard in weeks. |
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>>> It doesn't even deserve a response. |
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>>> Who the fuck is promoting this shit? |
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>> people who had to deal with corrupted filesystems in the past? |
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> The way to deal with the problem of fs corruption is to have reliable |
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> tested backups. |
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> The wrong way to deal with the problem of fs corruption is to get into |
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> cargo-cult manoeuvrers thinking that lots of little bits making a whole |
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> is going to solve the problem. |
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> Especially when the part of the disk statistically most at risk is the |
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> valuable data itself. OS code can be rebuilt easily, without backups |
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> data can't. |
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> |
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the bigger the drive, the greater the chance of fs corruption. Just by |
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statistics. Better one minor partition is lost than everything. |
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You can disagree as much as you like, but with the size of drives and |
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the current error rate of consumer hard drives it is not a question of |
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'if' but just a matter of 'when'. |