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On 27/10/13 09:30, Mike Gilbert wrote: |
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> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:13 AM, hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote: |
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>> Since I maintain blender I have come across quite a few frustrated |
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>> users already: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=488976#c7 |
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>> I am not sure myself. On one hand we don't need python-updater anymore |
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>> and have very tight dependencies that ensure that all needed modules |
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>> are always available for the desired implementation. |
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>> On the other hand it seems to give a lot of users trouble with |
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>> blockers, general configuration and mass-updates on things like |
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>> removing python:2.5. |
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>> What are your opinions? Did it improve user experience? What could be |
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>> improved? |
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The python user experience is less than overwhelming for a user. |
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1. if python-update is no longer needed (first I have heard of this) why |
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is it still rebuilding many packages after an upgrade ... |
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2. I have python 2.7 installed and python 3.x is being asked to be |
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installed ... isnt that enough? - shorely it can work out what it needs |
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from whats been asked for/removed and whats already on the system ... |
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instead we need to add these cryptic, poorly explained lines that one |
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only finds out from emails etc. The elog message for the one exception |
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asks that the line be added to make.conf without telling the user what |
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happens if he upgrades later (as it lists specific versions) or makes |
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changes - does that line have any effect, especially if he makes a |
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mistake (which I did and I am not sure what it did in the background)? |
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4. sorry if the above sounds over the top but some of the changes did go |
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wrong for me ... as is the grub2 upgrade I am still trying to get to |
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work after many hours ... |
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5. and I am really really impressed that a dev has actually asked the |
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users ... unlike other decisions being made! |
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BillK |