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Am 30.09.2013 00:06, schrieb Walter Dnes: |
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> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 06:10:46PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote |
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>> From REDHATs or SuSEs perspective seperate /usr is not a problem. |
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>> Putting lvm/bluetooth/mdraid/whateverthefuckyoumightneed there was |
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>> and is not a problem too. Thanks to initrds&co. |
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> And if I wanted to run bleeping Redhat Fedora, I'd run bleeping Redhat |
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> Fedora. I want GNU/Linu-x, not GNOME/Lenna-x. |
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luckily nobody forces you to install gnome, systemd or pulseaudio. |
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You don't have to do anything unless you: |
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have /usr on a seperate partition |
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no initrd. |
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If you have no initrd: genkernel |
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it will create one for you. Very easy to use. |
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>> They are using them for AGES and it works fine. |
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> * Loading firmware into the kernel worked fine for AGES, until Kay |
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> Seivers broke udev... https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/303 |
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different story. |
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> * Everybody's single-NIC machine came up with eth0 for AGES, until Kay |
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> Seivers broke udev. And calling the new setup "predictable" is |
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> George Orwell 1984 doublespeak. Let's see you walk up to an unknown |
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> machine and "predict" what the NIC is going to come up as. |
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and you could predict with the old setup? |
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If think these new names are as stupid as it gets, but I had enough pain |
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in the past with multi-nic boxes shuffling eth0, eth1, ethn+1... |
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randomly on reboots. That was fun. |
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> * Separate /usr worked fine for AGES, until... Do you see a pattern |
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> developing here? |
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seperate /usr has stopped working fine AGES AGO. Just some setups were |
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lucky enough not to stumble over the wreckage and fall into the shards. |
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Only worse than breakage is silent breakage that seems to be ok. Until |
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the day where some minor and arcane change fucks you up. |
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I have to admit: I don't use init'thingies' - because I don't have to. |
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But back when I played around with different RAID setups I was prepared |
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to use one - because I am not stupid. If I want something to work that |
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needs an 'initthingie', I don't complain and bitch, I read up on |
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'initthingies'. |
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Besides, AFAIR Dale is the only one who had ever problems with |
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'initthingies' on this list. And Dale has a lot of problems with stuff |
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that works for everybody else. |
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