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From: Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielmeier@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Replacements for ivman
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:40:05
Message-Id: 48F11D55.5030906@googlemail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Replacements for ivman by Alan McKinnon
1 Alan McKinnon schrieb am 11.10.2008 23:06:
2 > On Saturday 11 October 2008 15:18:24 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
3 >> Am Samstag, 11. Oktober 2008 13:24:03 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
4 >>> Is there a replacement for ivman?
5 >> What exactly do you do with it, which filesystems do you mount with it?
6 >
7 > At the moment mostly just hot-plug stuff on USB with your standard
8 > fat/ext2,3/reiser/nfts file systems, plus optical media. I also have an
9 > sd/mmc reader and firewire on this notebook, neither of which I've never used
10 > but probably should.
11 >
12 > HAL and the various things one could do with it's events is something I've
13 > stayed away from studying. Maybe early versions were confusingly
14 > documented... and all those xml files... I was reading a wiki page on my
15 > make/model notebook to see if I could improve on how I was using the
16 > hardware, this came up and looked useful. Automounting is the most obvious
17 > case, especially as e17 doesn't do it well - I get an ugly icon on the
18 > desktop and a long description string that is truncated at about 10
19 > characters, so the system is worse than useless. I resort to using konqueror
20 > with it's media:/ kio-slave instead, which feels clunky and more of a
21 > work-around than a proper desktop configuration.
22 >
23 > If there's something better than ivman, or if I really should be configuration
24 > HAL directly, then I'm all ears, but I do get the impression that one really
25 > should be working with HAL via a front-end for true ease of use
26
27 I also think having software that is unmaintained or updated very seldom
28 is not a good thing. I mean you lack features, bug and security fixes
29 here. When I see no progress for an app that I use quite often I search
30 for alternatives and get used to it.
31
32 You are right hal is quite messy and it is not worth to struggle with as
33 it is not developed any longer [1]. It will be replaced with
34 devicekit, maybe this will be a better implementation.
35
36 Thunar in combination with thunar-volman works fine here. But it also
37 uses hal and dbus quite much, as most xfce apps. I have no problems with
38 it though. Optical media and external USB devices work fine, other
39 things I don't need.
40
41 Regards,
42
43 Daniel
44
45 [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2008-May/011560.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Replacements for ivman Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>