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From: Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:34:52
Message-Id: 20130420093414.GA31686@waltdnes.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio by Alan McKinnon
1 On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 09:28:03AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
2
3 > Audio apps tend to not be aware of the environment they run in, and not
4 > be aware of what you want to happen with the sound. A bluetooth app has
5 > no real way of knowing you want incoming phone calls to be sent to a
6 > headset, to use the laptop's built-in mic and run the whole lot through
7 > an audio filter to account for impaired hearing (i.e. boost the middle
8 > frequencies). All whilst Amarok continues to play mp3s on speakers in
9 > the next room.
10 >
11 > True, that sounds contrived, but audio just works like that - consider
12 > all the combinations you have on the sound system in your living room.
13 >
14 > Trying to get apps to deal with this is an impossible task, so enter
15 > pulseaudio. It knows about sources and sinks and has a config file so
16 > that it can sit in the middle as a fat layer and apply this intelligence.
17 >
18 > If you need it, PA can be great. Not everyone needs or wants it, many
19 > people are quite content to just carry on as they always did and aren't
20 > fazed with minor niggles about their audio. You seem to fall in this
21 > category, so do many others.
22
23 I think you've hit the nail on the head. Complex setups require
24 complex software... deal with it. An analogy is that an 18-wheeler
25 semi-tractor trailer with a 17-speed manual transmission (plus air brakes
26 that require months of training to manage/use) is much more powerful
27 than a Chevy Sonic hatchback when it comes to hauling huge loads. But
28 for someoneone who merely wants to zip out to the supermarket and buy a
29 week's groceries, the hatchback is much more appropriate.
30
31 Similarly, PulseAudio may be better at handling complex situations
32 like you describe. The yelling and screaming you're hearing are from
33 the 99% of people whose setups are not complex enough to justify
34 PulseAudio. Making 100% of setups more complex in order to handle the
35 1% of edge cases is simply wrong.
36
37 --
38 Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
39 I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@×××××.com>