Gentoo Archives: www-redesign

From: Sven Vermeulen <swift@g.o>
To: Aaron Shi <aaron@××××××××.com>
Cc: www-redesign@××××××××××××.org
Subject: [www-redesign] Re: Status on Gentoo redesign
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:03:23
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:36:47PM -0800, Aaron Shi wrote:

Aaron, could you please subscribe to the www-redesign@g.o mailinglist
(www-redesign-subscribe@g.o) and continue all website
redesign-related dicussions there? As you see we have some quite active
people working on things, and having me playing relay host is a waste of
time :)

> Hi Sven, > > Happy new year! > > The hard disk migration was fine, but a faulty wall socket at home fried my > mainboard and the computer shop that I go to didn't open until a few days > after the new year. All is well now, but I did have a lot of catch up to do > as far as work and school goes since they both rely on the computer. > > Anyhow, the stuff that Michael was basing his work on was the really old > stuff from last November. I had it practically redone during December, but > haven't had a chance to upload it. I'm sorry I wasn't able to do it sooner. > > He must've played around with something that broke the layout in IE 6...some > elements on the page moves if you mouseover links on the navigation bar. > The old stuff did have minor IE problems which were hackfixed in the > November version, so it's not surprising that changes could throw things > off. The new stuff that I uploaded today should be more robust and it > should provide a good base for expansions. =) > > I like what Michael's doing, but I'm a bit worried about a few things that > he's doing. Namely, things like changing CSS classes/ids from what make > logical sense to something that doesn't, e.g. the news wrapper div #news to > #main. The #news wrapper only applies to the What's New section on the home > page for the purpose of selecting elements within and organization. It will > not be used on other pages as the tables, links, etc. in the What's New > section is rather special, and selecting and applying style rules to these > elements on content pages would not make any sense. Another thing was using > a span and a CSS rule to make text italic, but(X)HTML already has such a tag > for the exact purpose: <em>. > > Other than that, he's doing a good job. I like how he centered the jump > pads and used justify for the text (which has quirks when you try to print, > but very negligible). I have included these improvements into the version I > uploaded tonight. ;) I also want to say that it will be a good idea to > limit the number of news items on the home page to two if they have > summaries as long as the current ones. It will make for a faster load time > and less clutter. It is also not necessary to have old news on the home > page. If we decide to have a long page of new items, the jump pads will be > almost useless as they will be many screens down the page. > > Besides streamlining the code and fixing IE quirks, there are also several > other major improvements. > > The CSS is now cascaded: global level (i.e. www/packages/bugs/forums, etc.) > -> site level (i.e. -> page level (i.e. homepage of > This should make modifications much easier during > development and onwards, as it will obvious where rules are located and most > changes should probably only be made on the site/page level. > > I also made a prototype print CSS for the content pages, you can see what it > looks like by going to the generic page in your browser and going to print > preview. > > To address the issue of font sizes, I've implemented a font size changer on > the content pages. The user could increase/decrease the content font size > and the changes are saved into a cookie so that it will apply site wide. I > think this give users flexibility without compromising the layout of the > pages. Without this system, the user would use his browser to increase font > size. The browser would increase all the fonts...making the navigation bar > (and other) fonts extremely out of proporation, causing it to wrap in the > lower bound "designed for" resolution of 800x600. Text is still defined > using relative sizes, so the user still has the option of using his browser > sizes. =p > > I am unable to test any of this on Konqueror as my linux drive is currently > sitting outside the computer waiting for a usb case. :( They work perfectly > in IE6, Firefox and Opera though. > > > about-v1 but without the search box. Chances are we won't have search > functionality anyway. > > Why not? It's easily implemented with Google. It practically indexes like > 200,000 pages from all the sites already anyway. Google offers > an ad free, customizable search solution for 501.c.3 non-profit > organizations. > > Even in the worst case, we can always tap into Google by restricting queries > to or whatever. I use that for the current Gentoo > site...some search is better than no search and I find what I need much > quicker. > > Btw, how the dev process going? I haven't heard from anyone since sending > in my info/keys last year. > > I realize this is a rather long email, so I'm cutting it here. ;) > > > > The links are: > Home: > A generic content page (handbook in this case): > >
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Subject Author
Re: [www-redesign] Re: Status on Gentoo redesign Michael Curtis Napier <curtis119@×××××.com>
Re: [www-redesign] Re: Status on Gentoo redesign Sven Vermeulen <swift@g.o>
Re: [www-redesign] Re: Status on Gentoo redesign Stefan Huszics <sauron@×××××××.se>