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From: Kurt Lieber <klieber@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:05:37
Message-Id: 20061108200152.GA4007@mail.lieber.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 05:54:13PM +0000 or thereabouts, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2 > We've identified one very widely used application that interprets SPF
3 > records based upon how they're used by spammers rather than by how the
4 > specification says they should be interpreted. In this case, SA is
5 > entirely reasonable in its behaviour -- SPF makes the classic incorrect
6 > assumption that spammers won't abuse the system.
7
8 Ciaran, you obviously do not understand the issue, nor do you know what
9 you're talking about.
10
11 The issue is that SpamAssassin assigns a score of ~1 to any email that
12 FAILS an SPF check for a domain that has a ?all (neutral) rating. I want
13 to stress that it has to FAIL. If it doesn't fail, I believe SA's default
14 behavior is to assign a *negative* score of 0.1.
15
16 So, in other words, spammers aren't abusing anything related to SPF.
17 They're sending mail using forged return-paths and SPF is highlighting
18 that. Which is exactly what SPF is designed to do.
19
20 The impact is that some users happen to send mail in a way that ends up
21 looking very similar to a spammer sending an email with a forged
22 return-path. And, because of the way SA has chosen to interpret this,
23 those valid, non-spam emails get assigned a positive spam value, even when
24 the mail administrator has asked them not to.
25
26 --kurt

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@×××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <flameeyes@g.o>