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On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 05:32:25PM +0000, Duncan wrote: |
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> I already asked gentoo/kde to reconsider, given that they've supported |
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> USE=-semantic-desktop until now and with 4.11 much of kde4's going into |
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> maintenance mode as the upstream developer focus switches to kde5/kde- |
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> frameworks, so it makes little sense to drop support for -semantic- |
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> desktop now, when upstream is continuing to offer that option at least |
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> thru kde4, and kde5/frameworks is supposed to be far more modular, so with |
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> luck will allow users to pick and choose whether they want the |
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> semantic-desktop components pulled in or not. However, given the gentoo/ |
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> kde project history with dropping kde3 support and forcing kde3 users to |
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> to the user-supported kde-sunset overlay even while kde4 was still not |
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> ready for use (and despite upstream kde's broken promise to support kde3 |
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> as long as there continued to be users), I'm not optimistic, but it was |
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> worth a shot. |
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Being part of the team that decided to remove KDE3 from the tree, I |
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assure you that it wasn't an easy decision. Unfortunately, KDE3 was in |
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really bad shape. Upstream had abandoned it, build tools slowly became |
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incompatible with it and maintaining it became a big PITA for the KDE |
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team. |
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A lot of work had been put into making KDE3 and KDE4 co-exist already, |
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since we too felt that KDE4 was not ready and I'm pretty sure we kept it |
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around longer than most distros out there. |
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But at some point KDE4 became usable and we had to move on, for our own |
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sanity. |
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That said, I do agree that semantic-desktop should stay optional in |
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KDE4. Back in my KDE days I hated it and always ensured it - and its |
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ugly dependencies - stayed off my system. Unfortunately I am not part of |
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the KDE team anymore, so I don't know what their reasoning is behind |
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this decision. Hopefully they will reconsider :) |
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Alex Alexander | wired@gentoo |
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+ www.linuxized.com |
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++ www.leetworks.com |