Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:06:37 +0100
Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o> wrote:
> > 9) EAPI 3 bans || ( use? ( ... ) )
>
> What is the suggested replacement? If there's a decent one, sure.

The replacement is to write the deps out correctly. Every single use of
|| ( use? ( ... ) ) in the tree is wrong.

> > 2) EAPI 3 supports slot operator dependencies
>
> Was this for bug #229521? If so, sure.

Yup. I'm avoiding the term 'multi-slot', though, since that's not what
this is and we're already using multi- in relation to slots for the
non-static SLOT idea.

> > 10) dohard and dosed banned in EAPI 3
>
> I think I missed the reasoning for removing these, particularly
> dosed. pybugz didn't see any open bugs.

Portage doesn't merge hardlinks correctly, so dohard is bad. And
dosed's been considered deprecated for years.

> > 11) doinclude, newinclude for EAPI 3
>
> Is installing to /usr/include by default useful for most packages
> that want to use this? Or would they /usr/include/${PN}? If you have
> to change it often, aren't you just as well off using insinto/doins?
> Should there be an "includeinto"?

I'd be inclined to agree on that one, but people seem to be after more
of these do* things.

> > 21) REPLACING_VERSIONS and REPLACED_BY_VERSION in EAPI 3
>
> I'm curious why it isn't global. Seems like it would make sense to
> put it near dependencies. Also I could be wrong, but wouldn't you
> want to be able to cache this and show smart pretend output, etc?

I think you're misunderstanding what this is for. It's to allow
packages to work out whether they're upgrading / downgrading /
reinstalling / whatever, since Zac broke the devmanual-documented and
PMS-required way of doing it using has_version and refuses to revert it.

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Ciaran McCreesh