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From: Peter Johanson <latexer@g.o>
To: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@g.o>
Cc: Zach Welch <zwelch@g.o>, gentoo-dev@g.o, gentoo-core@g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] FORK: The Time Is Now
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:50:02
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] FORK: The Time Is Now by Daniel Robbins
1 On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:02:27PM -0600, Daniel Robbins wrote:
2 > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:08:55PM -0700, Zach Welch wrote:
3 >
4 > I will not make any attempt to correct your account of events, even though
5 > they contain numerous gross exagerations, innaccuracies, massive "spin," and
6 > false insinuations that I am ripping people off, just in my initial scan of
7 > what you wrote. Littered with lies, and slanderous, certainly.
8 >
9 > Your write-up is like a "based on real events" TV movie, where there are
10 > *just* enough facts to make the story believable to those who don't know any
11 > better.
12 >
13 > I will not "retaliate" by writing up a startling expose of any supposed
14 > wrongdoings on your part. Because, frankly, life is too short for this kind
15 > of stuff. I don't want to waste it by launching personal attacks on people.
16 >
17 > I could easily "win" the argument by explaining in detail what really
18 > happened, sharing the real facts, details, situations, conversations and
19 > intentions, proving lies to be fabrications, assertions to be stories, and
20 > your supposed critical analysis to be fueled solely by irrational anger.
21 > But somehow I think that I'd end up "losing" by adopting your tactics.
22 >
24 I completely understand your desire not to get in a "slander
25 war," and i respect that. At the same time, Zach has raised a lot of
26 issues that i feel *need* to be addressed. If we as developers are to be
27 able to make rational sense of these events, and not just make
28 assumptions or biases, we need to know everyone's side of them.
29 Zach's account provides us with his view of what happened, and gives us
30 concrete events as he sees them. All i get from your response is a
31 blatant dismissal of his opinions and account, with no justification.
33 part of open source is about openness, and transparency. I love gentoo,
34 and have no personal gripes with you, but i (and i think at least a few
35 other devs) would feel a lot better if we could hear your side of the
36 story and make a decision for ourselves based on that.
39 -pete
42 --
43 Peter Johanson
44 <latexer@g.o>


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] FORK: The Time Is Now Seemant Kulleen <seemant@g.o>
[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] FORK: The Time Is Now Brad Laue <brad@××××××.com>