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From: "C. Brewer" <cbrewer@×××××××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] USE Linux 2.6.x
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:47:37
Message-Id: 200310212044.30947.cbrewer@stealthaccess.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] USE Linux 2.6.x by Spider
1 On Tuesday 21 October 2003 3:25, Spider wrote:
2 > begin quote
3
4 > Then fix pcmcia-cs and alsa-driver before you suggest anything. as it
5 > is, my machine won't boot properly without pcmcia-cs -and- alsa, as they
6 > IRQ conflict unless loaded in a certain order.
7
8 Excuse me? "I" should fix these?
9
10 > They are both dependant on the target module, and theres no way in a
11 > gnomes purple hell you are going to get me into a state where I can
12 > reboot first, and then rebuild the modules, only to reboot again so I
13 > have a working boot session. uh-oh- NO.
14
15 Under those conditions likely not.....
16
17 > And no, you won't get me to emerge it with SLOT="purple-gnomes-2.4.44"
18 > either, Just because I sat down and got my own kerneltree installed into
19 > usr/src/testkernelwithextraJFSpatches , and then loose my existing ,
20 > working, tried kernelset.
21
22 Okay, this part comes across barely intelligible, but if it helps substitute
23 TARGET= for SLOT=.. of course I did point out it was a suggestion, not a
24 solution, and you have offered up what counterproposal?
25
26 > When you get this set to -automagically- detect the target kernel.,
27 > build modules and fix. then ok.
28
29 Again with the when "i" thing...
30
31 > if you want it to depend on the running kernel, erm... No. theres a few
32 > things already that do so, and that is -BROKEN- behaviour. I don't even
33 > -HAVE- the sources for my running kernel at most times. What? No I
34 > don't need them. I shouldn't need to have my sources for the hard
35 > compiled and working copy of 2.4.18-saviour with extra everything that I
36 > know boots all my machines and I have in a .tar stored away for working
37 > order.
38
39 "I" don't want to have it depend on a running kernel, or on a symlink, All I
40 was saying is that in most cases it'd probably be just easier to boot into a
41 running kernel and build your non-essential mod package, I realize that this
42 is not always the case.
43
44 > Yes, this thread invoked a lot of hot emotions from my side.
45 >
46 >
47 > // Spider
48
49 Well, guess what? I was pretty pissed off _before_ I saw your mail, so you
50 can imagine where I'm at now, especially since I've asked a couple of times
51 why this symlink is necessary, when it's highly discouraged. If a package
52 needs this symlink, mask it, get it fixed upstream or dont carry it at all
53 ffs. I point out the bad ones when I see them, and I atleast proffered a
54 suggestion. I was civil when this was a discussion, but turning this into a
55 pissing match was sheer stupidity. But I guess I'm just the stupid end user
56 with no say, I guess? Atleast when I'm being a prick, I only represent me.
57
58 --
59 Chuck Brewer
60 Registered Linux User #284015
61 Get my gpg public key at pgp.mit.edu!! Encrypted e-mail preferred.

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] USE Linux 2.6.x Chris Smith <chris.rs@×××××××.nz>
Re: [gentoo-dev] USE Linux 2.6.x Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] USE Linux 2.6.x Spider <spider@g.o>