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From: Stuart Herbert <stuart.herbert@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] What is "official"?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:35:37
Message-Id: b38c6f4c0606090232o76313007h5259b0f93cad342f@mail.gmail.com
1 Hi,
2
3 One of the issues that the o.g.o project has brought to a head is the
4 definition of what is "official" and what is not "official" when it
5 comes to Gentoo. The term is already being thrown about in the
6 Project Sunrise thread; I'm sure it'll come up again in future.
7
8 It's an issue I think we should discuss and find an agreement on.
9
10 Personally, I think what makes something official or not is 100% down
11 to who does it. I think something is official if it is done by the
12 project (where a project matches the definition in the metastructure
13 project) responsible for whatever we're applying the label "official"
14 to, then that's all that matters.
15
16 So (picking something entirely at random for an example), if the Java
17 project had an overlay somewhere (say, on gentooexperimental.org),
18 because it's their overlay, the overlay is "official". Doesn't matter
19 where it is hosted - all that matters is that it is run by the Java
20 project.
21
22 Equally (because it is the hot topic of the moment), Project Sunrise's
23 overlay would be "official" because they're a Gentoo project. The way
24 to stop them being "official" is simply to have the Council pass a
25 resolution to shut down the project.
26
27 I think the other side of the term "official" is clarifying the scope
28 of how far something can be "official". Using the Java project as an
29 example again (sorry guys :), the Java team can put in place
30 "official" policies and procedures for what their team does, but that
31 doesn't make them mandatory for the whole Gentoo project. Other
32 developers remain free to form competitive projects, and put their own
33 "official" policies and procedures in place if they wish.
34
35 (I hope I explained that last bit properly. What I'm trying to do is
36 keep in mind the terms of the metastructure document, which explicitly
37 allow for two or more teams to be competing with each other).
38
39 What are the alternatives? If a project's activities are not
40 automatically "official", then who gets to decide, and how is that
41 decision made? How can that decision be made fairly, without
42 contradicting the metastructure, and without giving rise to any
43 accusations of 'cabals'?
44
45 Best regards,
46 Stu
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] What is "official"? Carsten Lohrke <carlo@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] What is "official"? Ned Ludd <solar@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] What is "official"? Lance Albertson <ramereth@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] What is "official"? Luis Francisco Araujo <araujo@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] What is "official"? Josh Saddler <nightmorph@g.o>