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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:13:42 -0600 |
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Andrew Gaffney <agaffney@×××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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> Dennis Allison wrote: |
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> > First, it is important to understand that programming is independent |
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> > of any particular programming language. Languages are just the |
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> > representation or notation for programs. Some are large and complex |
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> > and likely to get in the way of understanding programming (C++); |
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> > others are spare and simple and conceptually clean (Python, Scheme). |
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> > |
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> > I'd begin with Python and then move on to other languages. Starting |
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> > with C++ is a bit like deciding you want to take up mountain |
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> > climbing and that the first mountain you want to climb is Mount |
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> > Everest. |
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> While I do completely agree with that analogy, C++ was the first |
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> (real) language I learned (after Apple BASIC, QBasic, VB, and Java |
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> (*I* do not consider Java a real language)) and |
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I really don't understand what people have against Java?!? Is it |
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because of Sun and its license? |
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I have many years of experience in java programming and also learned |
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object oriented programming with it. In my opinion it's good and clean. |
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How many other languages do you know, which works on multiple |
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platforms without recompiling, run as a plugin in browsers, has deep |
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security concept built in (sandbox, bytecode verifier, etc), |
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multithreading as a basic language feature, exception handling, RPC/RMI, |
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etc etc etc ... |
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If someone really is interested in understanding object oriented |
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programming then I would advise to begin with Java. |
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> it gave me a broad understanding of the way that any language works. |
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> Because I know C/C++, I can easily pick up new languages because I |
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> don't have to learn new concepts. |
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Agreed, but as you said, your first language was not C/C++ but Basic, |
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VB, Java etc. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think you |
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learned(hopefully) object oriented programming mostly with Java. |
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In my case I learned OOP in Java and could utilize it to C++ without |
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big problems. The only strange thing was weird language constructs and |
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discrepancies in C/C++. |
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Please don't get me wrong. |
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Regards |
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Marc |
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