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From: Thierry Carrez <koon@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:06:52
Message-Id: 44D077D8.3030907@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations by foser
1 foser wrote:
2
3 > I checked back on the initial announcement, where it Sunrise was made
4 > public as an official Gentoo project without any prior discussion. The
5 > announcement actually stated 'This is an announcement - No flamewars
6 > allowed'. I guess the creators were already aware of the feelings of
7 > some other developers on this issue and decided to just go ahead instead
8 > of going through the proper channels (GLEP?) and do things as they
9 > wished. As we all know this can be very effective, but this particular
10 > time one of the largest and longest ongoing 'discussions' in Gentoo's
11 > history ensued.
12 > If you know it's flamewar material, why do you go ahead
13 > so bluntly with your project ? Why not go trough the proper channels and
14 > discuss it beforehand in a public place ?
15
16 That's just the way to do it.
17
18 Excerpt from the metastructure model, chosen by the majority of devs
19 last year (and not my model):
20
21 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0039.html
22 =================================================
23 A project is a group of developers working towards a goal (or a set of
24 goals).
25
26 * A project exists if it has a web page at www.g.o/proj/en/whatever that
27 is maintained. ("Maintained" means that the information on the page is
28 factually correct and not out-of-date.) If the webpage isn't maintained,
29 it is presumed dead.
30
31 * It may have one or many leads, and the leads are selected by the
32 members of the project. This selection must occur at least once every 12
33 months, and may occur at any time.
34
35 * It may have zero or more sub-projects. Sub-projects are just projects
36 that provide some additional structure, and their web pages are in the
37 project's space.
38
39 * Not everything (or everyone) needs a project.
40
41 * Projects need not be long-term.
42
43 * Projects may well conflict with other projects. That's okay.
44
45 * Any dev may create a new project just by creating a new page (or, more
46 realistically, directory and page) in gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en.
47 =================================================
48
49 So you can create projects by creating a directory in
50 gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en, you don't have to announce it (but it's
51 polite to do so), and it may well conflict with other projects, that's okay.
52
53 You can't blame them for following the right rule. You can blame the
54 rule, though.
55
56 --
57 Koon
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@×××××××××××××.uk>
[gentoo-dev] metastructure model (was Re: Sunrise contemplations) "Kevin F. Quinn" <kevquinn@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations foser <foser@g.o>