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From: Mike Bonar <mike.bonar@××××.ca>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:07:17
Message-Id: 44E317C1.3060906@shaw.ca
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system by Enrico Weigelt
1 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
2 > * Jakub Moc <jakub@g.o> schrieb:
3 >
4 > <snip>
5 >
6 >
7 >>> That somehow looks like the guided file-a-new-bug form we had some time
8 >>> ago.
9 >>>
10 >> It's still there, just not linked from homepage (and needs a few touches
11 >> here and there)
12 >>
13 >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
14 >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gentoo%20Linux&format=guided
15 >>
16 >
17 > hmm, looks like an good start, but for me doesn't go far enough.
18 > The user still has to type in too much manually.
19 >
20 > I'd suggest an tool, where the user *first* gives the package name,
21 > and the tool gathers any necessary information (version, useflags,
22 > make config, ...). Dependend on the package, this tool may ask specific
23 > questions or gather specific information (ie. on web applications,
24 > we'd be interested in webserver, browser, certain network configs, ...).
25 >
26 > The usage should be as simple as possible for normal users, so they
27 > have great interest in using it. For example, asking the user to
28 > look for similar bug is probably good for devs/maintainers, but
29 > uncomfortable for plain users. But we shouldn't forget, that all
30 > the plain users are (in their mass) also an important contributor.
31 > (they find and report bugs, which probably never would be found
32 > by the maintainers).
33 >
34 >
35 > cu
36 >
37 I think this is an excellent idea. I wrote an automated trouble
38 ticketing system years ago for the mainframe and it's an excellent way
39 to get quality information into the system. The one drawback was that
40 we ended up having a lot more bugs entered into the system. Once you
41 have the shell it wouldn't be hard to hook it into batch processes and
42 have emerge automatically send bug reports when it fails. When this
43 happens you end up with multiple, identical bug reports because users
44 tend to re-create the error a few times before they head to the forums
45 or bugzilla for help. On the plus side it would be much easier to find
46 duplicate bugs since the titles would be uniform.
47
48 Glide
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@×××××.de>
Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system Philipp Riegger <lists@××××××××××××.de>