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On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 20:03 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: |
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> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: |
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> > A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to |
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> > make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a |
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> > mission statement, but no one ever remembers what it is or abides by it. |
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> I guess there isn't one driving force behind Gentoo - we have many |
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> differing opinions on things like QA, handling of bugs, ... |
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> It's just that usually Gentoo gets the least in your way when you're |
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> trying |
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> to do something :-) |
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> |
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> > I guess I'm almost hinting at that Gentoo needs a single entity that's |
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> > sole purpose is to drive/research the direction and goals for Gentoo. |
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> There was this Robbins guy ... remember him? ;-) |
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> > It'd be almost ceo-like, but the council is still top dawg. Right now, I |
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> > view our group as a bunch of chiefs with no real single leader saying |
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> > "lets strive to do this". The main problem is, too many people fear |
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> > about such a person could turn into a dictator, so I'm not sure if this |
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> > could ever happen. |
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> I wonder if any single person would be accepted? |
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> After all there is noone capable of forcing anyone to do anything as far |
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> as I can tell - worst case you fork Gentoo (again) and don't resolve |
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> the issues. |
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> > This person would be in constant contact of all the |
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> > groups and try to muck together what everyone is doing. They could |
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> > suggest things to help minimize user impact, maybe try to join two |
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> > projects if they are both working on a similar goal, thus minimizing the |
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> > workload. Stuff like that essentially. |
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> Communication ... should happen anyway, but it seems to get more and |
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> more |
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> difficult. Another layer of bureaucracy won't help that ... |
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> > We need a good visionary. If such |
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> > a position were created, I also think that person's sole focus should be |
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> > that focus within Gentoo. (i.e. they aren't a major contributor for a |
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> > subproject in Gentoo). This position would take too much time for them |
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> > to keep those other duties. |
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> ... and you'd burn out a capable person within half a year I think |
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> > Dunno, maybe I'm the loner here thinking this... |
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> Maybe a bit idealistic, but I mostly agree :-) |
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Upon doing some reading about what _exactly_ Gentoo council does, it |
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seems to me that Gentoo Council is an operations board. I think what |
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Patrick and Lance are getting at (correct me if I'm wrong) is that we |
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need to have some form of Governance board. A board that doesn't worry |
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about implementation details; a board that gives a long term vision to |
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our project. |
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I am a big believer is having a common goal to unite all people who work |
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with an organization. I'm sorry If I am repeating myself, but I feel |
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this is an issue that is vital to the continued success of Gentoo. |
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-Lares |
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