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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:46:14 +0530 |
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Anant Narayanan <anant@g.o> wrote: |
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> On 29-Mar-07, at 2:26 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0530 |
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> > Anant Narayanan <anant@g.o> wrote: |
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> >> I certainly don't think so. A lot of people *switch* to Gentoo |
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> >> because of portage. Portage is a core part of our distro, and I |
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> >> don't see it being replaced for a long time to come. |
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> > Portage or the tree? Portage is just a way of using the tree, and |
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> > it's not a very good one... |
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> Both portage and the tree. I don't deny the fact that portage isn't |
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> the best way of using the tree but it's a lot better than many of |
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> the package managers (think other distros) out there. |
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Better than many other package managers isn't exactly a glowing |
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commendation. When you consider the disadvantages associated with a |
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source-based distribution, Gentoo has to do a lot better than that in |
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order to be worthwhile -- and it only takes one package manager to be |
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better to make Gentoo not worth using. The goal should be "substantially |
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better than any other package manager"... |
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> In fact, I've hardly felt as if portage was "limiting" me in any way |
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> for the past 2 years or so. It just works, and that's a good thing |
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> (TM). |
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Have a look at [1] and all the open "Portage should..." bugs. Would |
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any of those improve the user experience for you? Can you think of |
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other features of a similar nature that would make your life easier? |
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That Portage works does not mean that it is anywhere near ideal... |
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A few years ago Gentoo had some serious advantages over the |
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competition. These days, Gentoo is at serious risk of being Red Queened |
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by Ubuntu and Fedora. Providing the same thing that was provided two |
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years ago isn't enough. If Portage can't deliver functionality that |
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makes Gentoo competitive with where Ubuntu will be a year from now, |
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Portage has to be replaced. |
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[1]: http://ciaranm.org/show_post/95 |
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Ciaran McCreesh |