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On April 22, 2002 11:26 am, Alexander Gretencord wrote: |
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> Isn't that why we all chose to use gentoo instead of SuSE or Mandrake ? I |
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> know at least lately many Linux newbies have come to Gentoo but if they |
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> want to take the challange, let them. I've come from RH 6.2 through about 1 |
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> day of Mandrake then Slackware 8 to Gentoo now. You could even use |
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> Slackware with checkinstall or something like that instead of gentoo if it |
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> wasn't for the great ports like system (tho it still needs some work :)) I |
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> installed gentoo because it was _not_ like SuSE. The first sentence in the |
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> Gentoo description says it all: "that's geared towards experienced Linux |
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> users." |
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That maybe why you and other people switched to Gentoo but that wasn't my |
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reasons and probably some others are like me also. |
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I personnaly switched to Gentoo because I can upgrade my system faster and |
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ensure that I'm running the latest version of the software I run in order to |
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help testing and get security and other different fix fast. |
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Another reason for which I switched to Gentoo was to be able to upgrade big |
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libraries such as glibc without having to wait for a major release of the |
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distro or manually finding one by one each RPM I needed and then try to force |
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some to install because there was circular dependencies. |
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I believe Gentoo should enhance on the path of ease-of-use not just for |
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developers but also for users. |
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Why create a system such as portage and install your PC from that distro if |
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your kick is to learn everything? Then go read Linux from Scratch, you'll |
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learn all the things that ebuild script do for you and you'll also learn when |
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x package depend upon y. I've tried that in my past and it proven to take |
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too much of my time therefore I use Gentoo because it make me go beyond that. |
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Now the things that slow me down are config upgrade and system configuration. |
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Those are smaller than learning every packages but still can be enhanced |
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greatly. And that's why I initiate discussions on this. |
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Maybe thought that my idea belong on a project on its own and not inside a |
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specific distribution. Most similar project do exactly what you mention, |
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adapt to current /etc/ file system but this proven to be bad on evolve system |
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as then your system configuration tools doesn't update as fast as all the |
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related packages. That's why I first thought that Gentoo would be the ideal |
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mix as if the script get edited and the template is inside the script it |
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would then be piece of cake (nearly) to change the template at the same time |
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and then provide up-to-date package + config definition file. |
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Yannick Koehler |
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