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On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 09:27 -0700, Duncan wrote: |
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> They shouldn't /have/ to, but the option is there. Those who care about |
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> security and care about getting a heads-up on "major" changes of this |
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> nature, will find several opportunities to be notified of them. |
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That's not the point behind the push for this approach. |
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I kicked this off in my blog article because we've used those |
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opportunities to notify users, and it didn't work well enough. We've |
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had users and Gentoo developers alike who didn't know about the changes. |
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Add 'php' to your away logging, and sit in #gentoo-dev and |
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#gentoo-apache for a week or so, and make a count of the number of users |
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and devs who still don't know about the (delayed) PHP5 changes. |
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From my point of view, as a Gentoo developer pushing large |
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service-affecting changes out to users, our existing mechanisms are at |
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least a partial failure when it comes to getting the news out. |
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If you want a timely example, take a look at this week's GWN's |
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description of this debate, and see for yourself how it matches the |
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changes I've blogged about ;-) |
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> The announce list is one. |
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By your own admission, you're on the announce list, and but you didn't |
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know about the Apache changes. Imagine how many other users were in the |
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same situation. Imagine how many other users never signed up to the |
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announce list in the first place. |
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We can sit here all day and blame those users for their actions, or lack |
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thereof. |
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Or, we can do better, and pro-actively put the news right in front of |
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them. Even game systems like Steam already do this :) |
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> I'm just not sure how much |
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> I'd /personally/ prioritize it, given that there are plenty of information |
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> sources for those that care, already. |
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Take a moment to re-examine the argument from the viewpoint that the |
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existing information sources are not getting the news out to the people |
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that matter - our devs and our users. |
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From that point of view, this work is worth making a high priority. |
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Best regards, |
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Stu |
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Stuart Herbert stuart@g.o |
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Gentoo Developer http://www.gentoo.org/ |
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