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On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 02:30:29PM -0400, Brad Laue wrote: |
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> I was going more for the manageability aspect - drop Gentoo in place |
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> inside 30 minutes, update to the latest GRP packages, then begin |
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> optimizing - I'd like to think of myself as an advanced user, and I'd |
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> really find it traumatic to have to wait 56 hours for my Athlon XP to |
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> rebuild from stage1 into GNOME 2.4 and get myself back to a functional |
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> workstation. |
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I'm sure you've tried Debian or any other distribution then, because that's |
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exactly what they do. They provide you with a quick and easy installation of |
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binary packages. For the packages you want optimization, they provide an easy |
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way to create packages for it. |
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If I want my system to return to Gnome 2.4 after some crash, I use my |
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backups. If I install Gentoo, I know that I have to wait a certain amount of |
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time, but thats what I expect from a source-based distribution. If I want a |
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quick installation, I'll use a different distribution. |
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This is a harsh state of mind, but I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking |
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like this. |
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> > This is something that all distributions deliver: binary packages and an |
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> > "easy" way to source-compile packages but keep them in the database. If |
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> > Gentoo would go the same way, we are neglecting the source-based stuff. |
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> How so, beyond what we currently do with GRP? |
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I dislike GRP too. I feel that it takes (development) resources from us that |
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could be invested in more innovative projects. I feel that GRP is an effort |
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to reach more users instead of focussing on what Gentoo really was about |
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several months back. |
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I like to make the comparison with security-based projects. Their main goal |
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is to create a secure distribution/program. They will never try lowering down |
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that vision to get more people to use their distribution/program. |
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With security, saying "no" is easy because it is a strong subject. With |
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source-based vs binary this is less easy. |
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I must say, this is a personal opinion that I do not integrate in my work for |
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Gentoo (just to set the record straight). |
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Wkr, |
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Sven Vermeulen |
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^__^ And Larry saw that it was Good. |
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(oo) Sven Vermeulen |
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