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From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 02:45:17
Message-Id: assp.0385f55c39.20170730224458.2146bda9@o-sinc.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Future of gentoo's stable and unstable trees: what are your thoughts? by Sam Jorna
1 On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 10:28:31 +1000
2 Sam Jorna <wraeth@g.o> wrote:
3 >
4 > Wouldn't it make more sense to make Gentoo *more* attractive to run in
5 > corporate environments, rather than simply saying "We're not RHEL so
6 > why bother"?
7
8 No disagreement. That has always been my interest. Though has not been
9 others. It was in part why I became a trustee. For things like vendor
10 certified hardware, looking into certifications, events, and a whole
11 lot more. But people rather lambast, insult, and stand in the way rather
12 than either get out of the way or work with me.
13
14 It surely could happen without me but has not. I am definitely not
15 against such happening. But it would require tremendous change and
16 leadership. Which I do not see ever changing. I wish things were
17 otherwise.
18
19 > People do use Gentoo in production environments, both personally and
20 > professionally, even if it is those that have more investment in doing
21 > so than the average IT Joe. By removing stable, we would be reducing
22 > the potential arguments for the few who do want to use Gentoo in that
23 > sort of environment. We would be becoming more of a niche distro.
24
25 Preaching to the choir. That is not why companies I know who ran Gentoo
26 are leaving or left. One told me they did not want to be in the
27 operating system business. Stable or not, there are fewer companies
28 running Gentoo that were before. Due to other reasons that are not
29 changing, culture, etc.
30
31 Companies that run it today I doubt would change if stable went away.
32 If they left Gentoo, they have many reasons far beyond lack of a stable
33 branch/tree.
34
35 > "Hey, lets try Gentoo - it's really configurable."
36 > "What's their stable policy? How often does it break?"
37 > "Stable? What's that?"
38
39 How about no foundation. Not even a legal entity. No certifications
40 from vendors, nor for employees. No one to hire for official support.
41 There are so many things far beyond anything having to do with a stable
42 tree or not.
43
44 --
45 William L. Thomson Jr.

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