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On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 3:47 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote: |
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> I'm not entirely sure your experience bears out. I've seen exclusions in |
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> the time I've been involved with Gentoo, and on very debatable grounds. |
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Such as? I don't claim to be privy to ever comrel action, only those |
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which are appealed, and there haven't been many of those. If somebody |
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is so convinced that they won't prevail on appeal that they don't even |
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bother, then it is hard to be sympathetic to the claim that they've |
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done nothing wrong. |
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Note that comrel generally doesn't publish the grounds they have for |
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taking action. Others might do so, but Comrel does not comment as to |
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whether the grounds being posted are in fact the whole story. |
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Certainly the targets of comrel actions should be getting the full |
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story, and if not they can certainly ask the Council to step in. |
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However, I've yet to see a case where the grounds for Comrel action |
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wasn't told to the person involved, and generally the Council weighs |
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whether those are sufficient grounds for action. |
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It doesn't make for great PR all the time, but it is basically what |
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just about any other responsible organizations does in these sorts of |
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situations. I can't remember the last time I saw somebody fired from |
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my workplace bragging about the real reason why it was done. |
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Inevitably it is blamed on some kind of minor disagreement. And |
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companies generally just ignore this stuff as long as it doesn't go to |
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court, and it rarely does, because the court isn't going to keep it |
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private and you can't sue the court for publishing a bunch of |
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documents accusing you of doing horrible things. You certainly can |
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sue organizations that publish such things outside of a court, which |
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is one of the reasons why nobody else does it, and we shouldn't |
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either. |
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Rich |