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On 15 February 2015 at 10:23, Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o> wrote: |
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> On L, 2015-02-14 at 16:37 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Andreas K. Huettel |
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>> <dilfridge@g.o> wrote: |
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>> > |
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>> > We need to resolve this discussion somehow, by formulating a clear policy. |
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>> > Which is why I'm putting it up here for discussion and will ask to add it to |
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>> > the next council meeting agenda. |
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>> I tend to agree with what seems to be the general sentiment. As long |
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>> as we still accept patches via bugzilla/etc, then we aren't |
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>> "depending" on github. |
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>> FOSS alternatives are to be preferred, but since we don't have those |
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>> set up, I don't see why we have to live without anything in the |
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>> meantime. If somebody wants to host such a thing, I'd encourage them |
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>> to do so, and work with infra if they'll accept help. |
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> That is a good question. |
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> I'm sorry if I am the only one to point this out, but: |
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> We do NOT have even a WEB VIEW of our OFFICIAL overlays to see what is |
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> going on there without BLINDLY cloning git URIs randomly! |
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> Why should contributors care ONE BIT about things outside their comfort |
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> zone of contributions, which is github in many cases these days? |
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> After 6 months of complete blindness on official overlays, I was |
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> eventually pointed at an outside cgit which shows what's going on there. |
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> After 2 years of talking, we are still using CVS. |
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> It is not surprising one bit that GitHub is the last hope to people |
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> hoping to help out, with some folks willing to get their contributions |
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> to actually MATTER. |
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> We have failed the community to provide any reasonable free software |
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> ways to contribute. So semi-open source ways it is. |
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> With all the respect to the infra team they have done with their |
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> existing capabilities, but we need to do better and find better ways to |
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> achieve what we can with existing resources and fix this completely sad |
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> state. |
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> Mart |
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It is unfortunate that things fall through the cracks at infra, and |
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more and more useful tools are not provided by services under |
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gentoo.org, but by personal initiatives and hosted on other domains. |
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For this reason I propose that Sven Wegener, Michał Górny, and Patrick |
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Lauer be made members of the infra team, because they get things done |
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that the other infra members don't (for whatever reason, not pointing |
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fingers here). I'm thinking here about useful tools such as: |
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- https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo-portage-rsync-mirror |
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- http://cgit.gentooexperimental.org/ |
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- #gentoo-commits bot |
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- AutoRepoman |
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Cheers, |
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Ben | yngwin |
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Gentoo developer |
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