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Patrick Lauer: |
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> On Saturday 10 May 2014 12:46:31 hasufell wrote: |
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>> Samuli Suominen: |
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>>> On 09/05/14 21:37, Tom Wijsman wrote: |
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>>>>> It's counterproductive, means now user needs to read sourcecode of |
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>>>>> each package to determine it for himself, no global USE="gtk" |
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>>>>> possible anymore, massive pollution of package.use. |
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>>>> So, rehashing it in a thread to which it is unrelated yields no results. |
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>>> I'm not so sure, it seems QA is picking policies as per what some loud |
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>>> people on the ML say as opposed to giving overwhelming technical arguments |
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>>> their proper weight |
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>> Well, if QA team members confuses "bugs" with "bug reports" and say they |
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>> don't want to do actual work (aka tinderbox), because it would cause |
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>> more "bugs", then I have serious doubts about their technical |
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>> understanding of certain issues. |
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> It's not about "want", it's about having the resources (mostly time) to do so. |
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> If you wish to experience that for yourself - just build everything (I can |
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> give you a script to do so), and then triage bugs. It's great fun for the first |
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> few hundred failures :) |
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I hear you. |
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Anyway, last time I spoke with the QA lead, he said that QA has |
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currently enough manpower. |
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It's a little bit confusing. |
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What I am pissed about are the arguments other people have given (not |
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you), not the missing tinderbox... really. I appreciate every hour |
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people put in gentoo. It isn't about "you didn't get enough stuff done", |
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at all. |
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It is about some comments that reveal the way QA (or some parts of it) |
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thinks about itself. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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Something about that needs to change, IMO. And I don't necessarily mean |
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a regrouping of members or something similar. We already tried that, |
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didn't we? Let's not make it a habit. |
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It's sad that you have to yell out that loud before people actually |
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listen. But the fact is... you have to. |
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In the end, the blame is on the guy who yelled, not on the people who |
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didn't listen, because CoC doesn't really cover the latter. |
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