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On 10/13/2016 03:24 PM, Matthias Maier wrote: |
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>> The current problem (that this attempts to solve) is that the technical |
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>> leadership is doing things it should not be responsible for (primarily |
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>> comrel) but also pr and possibly infra. |
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> And what exactly would make the Foundation more appropriate to rule over |
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> interpersonal matters of a (disconnected) body of developers? |
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Council is for technical decisions, that they rule over 'HR' decisions |
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is an overstep. 'HR' is generally close to legal, and thus the foundation. |
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> I, for example, am not a member of the Foundation. And I guess quite a |
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> sizable number of Gentoo Developers isn't either. So what kind of |
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> democratic legitimacy would have, for example, the board of trustees |
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> have? [1] |
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You could apply to be a member if you wanted, as could anyone at this |
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point. The Trustees are elected by the Foundation members. |
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> Further, as a more or less complete bystander (not involved in the |
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> Foundation, council, or comrel) I have the impression that such a move - |
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> i.e., transferring power from council/comrel to the foundation is |
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> overwhelmingly demanded by trustees, foundation members, and complete |
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> bystanders. |
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I don't think it's currently being demanded. At the moment I see this |
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as solving long standing metastructure problems. |
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> I cannot stop the feeling that this is some sort of personal grudge, or |
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> disagreement with council and comrel that is tried to be fought out that |
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> way. |
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It could have started out that way, but I'm not carrying it out as such. |
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> Is it that way? |
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> If not, |
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> - why should the council not be in charge of inter-developer issues? It |
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> is an elected body from the Gentoo _developer_ community. |
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Answered above, but 'HR' is close to legal in my mind. |
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> - what makes the Trustees more appropriate for that job? |
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Answered above, but 'HR' is close to legal in my mind. |
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> - and if we choose to unite "governing power" over Gentoo as a whole to |
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> Trustees, who will act as a (necessary) counterpart to cross check |
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> financial affairs? |
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Could you explain what you are asking here? We currently have a |
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treasurer that is doing that. IRS maybe? |
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> Best, |
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> Matthias |
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> [1] Apart from that participation of non-gentoo developers in decisions |
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> over gentoo developers is in my opinion quite problematic. |
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