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On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 10:22 AM, David Seifert <soap@g.o> wrote: |
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> Hi William, |
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> given the massive inactivity of the sparc and hppa arches, I would like |
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> to request dropping their profiles to 'dev'. I would like two votes: |
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> 1) Should sparc be dropped to a 'dev' profile? |
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> 2) Should hppa be dropped to a 'dev' profile? |
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> I hope this can clear a lot of the STABLEREQ and KEYWORDREQ backlog |
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> that is making maintenance in Gentoo cumbersome. |
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I am against moving these to dev profiles for all the reasons Michał gives. |
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For everyone's information, sparc is in its current state because |
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bender, our sparc development system hosted at OSUOSL died in April |
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and Infra has not fixed it for whatever reason. I have contacted |
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Oracle about donating modern hardware to the Gentoo Foundation and |
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they expressed interest, but nothing concrete has happened yet. |
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Jack Morgan also decided to retire about the same time because of the |
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apparent crusade to drop support for architectures like sparc. |
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As an arch tester, I can tell you that it's horribly boring and |
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tedious work. I'd be happy to drop most keywords to ~arch (and Tobias |
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and I have agreed to do exactly this for alpha). In my experience as a |
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member of the MIPS team I can also tell you that fully ~arch is |
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terrible for stage building -- you're constantly dealing with generic |
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unstable problems and not with anything specific to the architecture |
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or stage building. Dropping profiles to dev/exp only exacerbate this |
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problem. |
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As such, I suggest that instead we consider dropping everything |
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outside of the @system set (and its dependencies) to ~arch for select |
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architectures. This will ensure that the core system remains stable |
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and stage building goes as smoothly as possible. With the |
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significantly reduced stabilization work load, I suspect that the arch |
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testers can keep up with keyword requests and stabilization requests |
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for @system packages. |
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I don't think we need council to be involved in this case. Please have |
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a little more patience until this can be done. |
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