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From: Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-12-11
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 12:54:21
Message-Id: 04e5cb7e-83b2-8c37-b438-3cc9ebfdbc2e@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-12-11 by Mart Raudsepp
1 On 12/03/2016 03:22 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
2 > Ühel kenal päeval, R, 02.12.2016 kell 15:44, kirjutas Agostino Sarubbo:
3 >> On Friday 02 December 2016 23:17:13 Aaron Bauman wrote:
4 >>> I would like the council to consider dropping IA-64 and SPARC from
5 >>> the
6 >>> supported list of stable architectures to increase the security
7 >>> posture
8 >>> of the tree.
9 >> I would like to ask to keep the things as is.
10 >>
11 >> The slowdown is caused from the fact that there are no rules for the
12 >> stabilization requests.
13 >> We (kensington mainly + wg-stable group) are working to have more
14 >> automations.
15 > He is talking about security stabilization bugs here.
16 >
17 > I don't understand why stable and security stable have to be connected,
18 > and why fringe arches are considered stopping the drafting and send-out
19 > of GLSA. The tooling could special case ia64 and sparc to tell that
20 > it's not marked stable there yet or whatever when it isn't yet. The
21 > dozen users will know what to do.
22
23 They must be connected, because we cannot properly clean the tree if
24 they are not. Otherwise, we would break the dependency tree. As long
25 as the packages are marked stable, we can somewhat ensure that users
26 will not be exposed to vulnerable code, but not entirely. We cannot
27 publish a GLSA if there is no stable upgrade path for the user either.
28 Why would that be acceptable? Given a "dozen users will know what to
29 do," then why build tooling for such a small audience? If they know
30 what to do, then we should expect that they will know what to do without
31 being a stable arch.
32
33 > Or as a temporary measure propose the removal of these arches from the
34 > list of security supported (I don't believe one of them is security
35 > supported even now), and move back to security supported once the
36 > process is more streamlined from the workflow efforts going into there
37 > now.
38 >
39 >
40
41 Aside from the above items, I think this proposal becomes confusing for
42 the user. My arch is stable... but not security supported?

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