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On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:34 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. |
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<wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Monday, October 3, 2016 12:16:47 PM EDT Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>> > # of developers recruited |
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>> Comrel doesn't recruit developers, so this is a bit meaningless. |
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> They are related projects, both under the same Community Resources project. 3 |
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> of 5 recruiters are members of comrel. |
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> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:ComRes |
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> The number of new developers is very important relating to the number that may |
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> have been driven away, either kicked out, or like me motivated to retired/ |
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> resign. Or had action taken against them. |
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> If say comrel took action against 5 in a year, and say 10 were recruited. That |
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> is bad stats for Gentoo as a whole. If more are being effected by comrel than |
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> recruited in a year even worse. Again that is very important information to |
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> know. |
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This assumes that what is good for Gentoo is more developers, and what |
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is bad for Gentoo is less developers. |
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By that argument we shouldn't have Comrel at all, and we should give |
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dev access to anybody who asks for it. |
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The criteria Comrel should be judged on is whether it is correctly |
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apply the Code of Conduct. |
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While I certainly would prefer to see developers change their behavior |
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than see them be kicked out, I'd rather see them be kicked out than |
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see them continue their previous behavior if it is egregious. |
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>> But, if this isn't the case it could also be a useful metric. My |
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>> sense is that Comrel doesn't actually resolve that many cases. |
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> That has been my main point since 2008. An entity that should resolve |
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> problems, instead creates them, and makes them much bigger and worse. That is |
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> my assumption, but facts can show one way or another. I hope I am wrong, but |
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> if I am right... |
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By the time Comrel steps in a problem already exists. |
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And by resolving I meant driving to a conclusion. Ideally that |
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conclusion is that people are behaving nicely. However, a situation |
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where somebody who does not demonstrate a change in behavior is |
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removed is a resolution. |
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Rich |
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