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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:36:15
Message-Id: 200903162234.45021.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140 by Paul Hartman
1 On Monday 16 March 2009 22:20:37 Paul Hartman wrote:
2 > > I wouldn't really have minded the inconvenience, except that while all
3 > > this was going on, the largest data centre in the Southern Hemisphere was
4 > > dropping off the air one router at a time, my desktop machine was
5 > > panicing after 4 minutes of use (so that's why I stopped using it 6
6 > > months ago!) and I had to use putty on the GF's Thinkpad to do my bit to
7 > > rescue all this. Putty sucks, really badly. The only thing that sucks
8 > > worse than Putty on Windows is Putty on Symbian, even on a Nokia
9 > > Communicator with a semi-decent keyboard (for a phone) :-)
10 >
11 > What sucks about PuTTY on Windows? I use it all the time and it seems
12 > to do everything... Granted, I just use it for simple serial port
13 > devices and SSH stuff, no exotic terminal emulations.
14
15 Putty itself isn't too bad if you look at it as a Windows app. It can never be
16 anything other than a Windows app and as such is restricted to how Windows
17 apps must behave. And therein is the problem - I'm way too used to openssh, I
18 want a command line to fire up my ssh client, I want to 'ssh me@there' in a
19 console and it must work. I don't want to have to poke around in a vast tree
20 structure to enter my options - I know what they are, I just want to type
21 them. Without a mouse.
22
23 So Putty doesn't really suck in isolation. It does work and can really operate
24 any different way. *Using* Putty on it's host platform sucks to someone who is
25 used to much more efficient way to accomplish the same task.
26
27 > PuTTY on Symbian only does SSH but it seems to do it well enough.
28 > Running it full-screen with the smallest font is actually not so bad,
29 > even on my 240x320 screen. Being able to connect to my computer
30 > wherever I have a cellular signal is convenient... typing with T9 on a
31 > numeric phone keypad, not so much... but that's the phone's fault, not
32 > PuTTY's. :P I've been meaning to set up a simple menu script that
33 > allows me to run all of my common tasks with phone-friendly
34 > keystrokes. emerge -uDvptN blah blah blah really sucks to tap out on
35 > the 0-9 keys :) Thank god for bash command history...
36
37 On Symbian it's a life saver when all other methods fail. Again, Putty is OK,
38 using the device is actually what sucks. I still can't find a pipe character!
39 And the screen is almost unreadable (it wasn't three years ago...)
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43 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Replies

Subject Author
[gentoo-user] Re: udev-140 Grant Edwards <grante@××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140 Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-user] udev-140 Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com>