Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for other Seamonkey users

[Dale]

antlists wrote:
> On 06/04/2021 18:30, Dale wrote:
>> Wols Lists wrote:
>>> On 06/04/21 05:19, Dale wrote:
>>>> Another question, can I just copy my current emails over and "import"
>>>> them?  I think Seamonkey uses mbox type setup.  I know I could with
>>>> Thunderbird but it was a bit fussy.  It did work tho. It also made it
>>>> easier to switch back.
>>> Consider setting up a local imap server. Do all email clients do imap
>>> nowadays?
>>>
>>> I use thunderbird, and since fetchmail broke, I just use rules to pull
>>> everything down from the net, sort it, and copy it to local folders on
>>> my imap server.
>>>
>>> You could then use mutt, or neomutt, or pine, or alpine, or
>>> whatever, to
>>> read (most of) your mail. And any html garbage they couldn't handle,
>>> you
>>> could use thunderbird or seamonkey or whatever.
>>>
>>> No need to move mail between different clients. And as for moving your
>>> current stuff over, you just move it from Seamonkey's local store to
>>> the
>>> imap server and it'll appear for all the other clients.
>>>
>>> Because I move around between home computers, having my mail like this
>>> exposed on an imap server is brilliant ...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Wol
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> If I understand this correctly, that could be a good idea.  I use gmail,
>> want to switch so bad I can taste it, and pop access to download all
>> emails to my hard drive.  I do that because if I run into trouble with
>> my network, I have emails just in case I can find a mailing list post
>> that will help.  IMAP requires the internet from my understanding.  From
>> my understanding of your idea, I'd use a email program to download and
>> store the emails for me here on my system and then use any frontend,
>> Seamonkey, Thunderbird or whatever to read, reply etc.  It would still
>> give me a local copy I can access without a network connection but I can
>> use whatever tool I want to see them.  Interesting.  That sounds like a
>> awesome idea.  Once moved, I'd never have to move it again if I change
>> what I use to view emails.
>
> All imap requires is an imap server. The ISPs run them, Google runs
> them, and why can't you run one?
>
> I run Courier-imap, most people seem to swear by Dovecote. Just do a
> bit of reading up.
>>
>> One thing, among others, I like about Seamonkey, folders and automatic
>> sorting.  For example, your reply went to a folder where all Gentoo user
>> mailing list emails go.  It also shows them by thread.  I like the
>> thread option for mailing lists but can disable it in other folders
>> where threads don't do well.  I repeat that for other mailing lists,
>> -dev for example, but also for my bank, online retailers like ebay or
>> Amazon etc.  Each has their own place to go.  One reason I do that, my
>> filters are set up in such a way that if a email is made to look like
>> one of those but comes from somewhere else, a scam or phishing, it
>> doesn't filter.  It stays in the inbox and that tells me to be
>> suspicious.  If I were to use IMAP, could I still do that?  Does IMAP
>> use folders and filters?  I admit, I don't think I've ever used IMAP.
>
> Imap is quite happy with folders. Google let you create folders, IMAP
> lets you access them. No problem.
>>
>> This sounds like a interesting idea.  I've read where people on this
>> list set up such a thing and it doesn't seem to complicated.  I might
>> could handle that with a good howto.
>>
>> Thanks much for thinking outside the box a bit here.  This could give me
>> lots of good options.
>>
> Read up on Courier and Dovecot. I'm sure people here will help you set
> it up. Once you've got it working, point Seamonkey at it and see if
> you can create folders.
>
> Then just point your existing rules to move your emails into your imap
> folders. You can keep Gmail, but all your folders and emails will be
> stored locally.
>
> And then, just like you can use any old client to access Gmail, you
> can use any old client to access your local imap server!
>
> Cheers,
> Wol
>
>


I've done some research.  It seems Dovecot is what I need.  It uses mbox
and has some features I might need one day already where Courier doesn't
but there isn't much difference really.  If anyone is curious, the
comparison is here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mail_servers

The biggest thing, mbox.  If I recall correctly that is what Seamonkey
uses and I should be able to import those easy enough.  It at least
gives me a head start.  Since this is a whole new deal, going to start a
new thread if nobody pops up and says nooooooo to Dovecot.  I found a
guide here: 

http://www.wikigentoo.ksiezyc.pl/Dovecot.htm

So far, it is Gentoo based.  I found another one but it is Ubuntu
based.  May work but commands are different.  Trying to go by a Gentoo
based one.  If anyone has a better one, please share links. 

May start new thread in a day or so if no one shouts nooooo. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  One howto mentions a squirrel.  I like squirrels.  ROFL